GGG v Carl Froch

Id say jackson was world class not a great but def world class

 

Strange isn't it? These people are so blinded by the Sky Sports' hype around this guy that they are willing to stump up PPV money so Froch can pick his own opponent, the softest one available by far, just because Froch apparently ''deserves'' it. Each to their own, but I think PPV should be for exciting match-ups that have fans split, fights like Golovkin vs Froch.

 

I think Golovkin would knock out Froch. Carl's defence is poor and I don't believe even his exceptional chin could withstand too many of Golovkin's shots. Golovkin possesses seemingly preternatural punching power and I'd expect him to carry it up to super middleweight. But at the end of the day all this talk is hypothetical. Froch will not take the fight. It's too dangerous.

 

Mugabi, jackson and on his way to blowing benn away in a round if it wasnt for poor refereeing. Add to that his career was cut short also beat roy jones junior in the amatuers plus blew most away within a couple of rounds...anyone that does that cant be described as having no ring iq at all. Even if he did that without ring iq he was still never a hypejob based on that above.

Really how many people had the tools to box benn up to the mclellan fight and failed to do so. Benn was tremendous at turning fights into slugfests. Everyone who watched the mclellan fight to this day credits benn for being an absolute warrior above the call of duty for it. I ve yet to see anyone saying mclellan had poor ring iq because of it.

 

Looking at the Murray fight I believe different. Carl is probably the hardest hitting SMW around. His jab would push GGG onto the backfoot, this is were Murray had most of his success.

 

I agree that Froch is the biggest puncher in that division. However Golovkin is just as durable as Carl, maybe even more so. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he was never once put down in his 300 or so amateur bouts. Nonetheless if anyone can seriously test his chin, it's Froch. Golovkin did seem more hittable than usual against Murray but I suspect he purposely opened up because he sensed early on that Murray couldn't hurt him. He would not neglect his defence against a big hitter like Froch. One thing's for sure, it would be a hell of a fight. It's a shame it won't happen.

 

His hype well and truly deserved by a list of opponents that he has fought. Why should not Froch go for a high money fight? If you were offered a job that paid you more, would you say no?

 

Froch too brave to be defensive or try and survive in anyway - he gets stopped because of this !

 

Had he been fighting at 160 you may have had a point, but he was fighting at 168.

Benn was a murderous puncher at 160 and 168, but he was always chinny, don't forget Eubank had him on ***** street with a jab FFS.

So i have to agree with Sol****

You are talking utter *******s.

 

Agree with solase on what point that gerarld mcllellan was a hype job that had no ring iq at all? On the point of the weight draining ...i knew the nigel benn fight was his first at 168. But some people think myself included that gerralds problems started before the nigel benn fight when he was still at 160. Its widely reported that headaches the blinking etc started after the first jackson fight.

Mcllelan was one of the biggest weight drainers out there remember a report saying they ve never seen anyone look as drained as mcllellan before fights etc. He stuck around middleweight for too long imo. I think thats some of the reason that allowed him to blow almost everybody away but it came with huge consequences imo.

Your kind of saying he wasnt really a puncher...then going on to say i m talking utter bullocks haha. Dont be an idiot!

 

Fair enough, long term dehydration will obviously have an impact on a fighters long term health, but if he's knocking people out and beating them without breaking a sweat then the effects of drying out will be minimised.

Pavlik is a prime example of a fighter who fights way below his natural weight, but Pavlik never suffered any neurological damage from this exercise, he just looked like **** when he moved up to his " proper " weight class.

G man was heavy handed, i still don't think he was a great craftsman in the ring, and as i said previously, staggering Benn never meant anybody was a great technician, nor a killer puncher.

 

G Mc was basically training himself for the Benn fight moved up in weight as rightly stated had weight issues at 160 lb.He had discarded Steward for the Benn fight a bad,bad move.

 

Im a big Froch fan but I almost feel like Mayweather snr when he seen Pacquioa up close and said ' nah I don't want my son anywhere near that'.

A few years ago maybe just maybe Carl could have found a way but in reality he was behind twice to a still pretty green Groves.

He didn't get lucky it was what it was but Groves aint no GGG.

 

Huge Froch fan but the truth is he is too old to fight GGG.

 

The point that i was trying to make mate not very well may i add about the draining being his downfall was i reckon he was draining too much for too long. That allowed him too blow most people away early because he was coming in bigger and stronger at the expense of stamina/long term health. As you were saying if he was knocking them out without breaking a sweat the damage would be minimile, but the first time someone was able to take him into deeper waters was the julian jackson fight around the time of that was when the headaches/constant blinking etc started. Could that have maybe started the downfall?? No one can be sure but what i remember i could be wrong in saying this but it was a brutal fight.

Disagree about the not being a killer puncher tho...with everything we seen from him. also from nigel benn himself "I came out of that fight with a damaged nose, a damaged jaw and I was urinating blood. I was in bed for three days afterwards and I had a shadow on my brain. That shows you how powerful a champion that man was"

Its hard to argue with that imo

At the end of the day mate we're all entitled to our opinions