Roach knows how to beat the philly shell

All you need to know about this fight is right here in my post:


The onus is on Floyd in this fight. Manny is going to do what Manny does. It's all going to depend on how Floyd reacts to what Manny does. IMO, Floyd can't become stagnant on the ropes like he's had a habit of doing in recent years because Manny will just throw multiple combinations at him. Being stuck in the turtle shell all night long against the ropes is not a good look for Floyd in this fight. I believe he is going to have to shift his weight from his right foot onto his left foot should he get into this situation and throw more left hooks to the body and left uppercuts. Just throwing the occasional right cross counter off of the ropes is not going to win him rounds in this scenario. Even if Manny's combinations do not land when Floyd is on the ropes it won't matter because if Floyd isn't countering back, Manny will accumulate points and that alone will win him rounds.

How is Floyd going to react to someone throwing 4-5-6 punch combinations at him all night long? Manny likes to be first. That's what his whole game is predicated on. And Floyd's game is predicated on counter punching. I'm not sure that's the right game plan for Floyd. Is Floyd going to be willing to throw 'with' Manny? I'm not confident Floyd's pot shot lead right hands are going to do the trick in this fight in the center of the ring. Even if Floyd is able to time Manny when Manny likes to bounce up and down like he likes to do. Manny's speed has not diminished but Floyd's has. Even if Floyd does throw that right hand--and lands it--Manny will be right there to follow up with a counter and likely from an unorthodox angle.

Floyd is going to have to jab in this fight and move around and be first. Can he do that effectively for 12 rounds? I honestly don't think he can. And, something I've alluded to in the past--I think Floyd is to the point in his career where he has been overtraining. I think by the time fight night rolls around, he's running on fumes. I blame this on old methodology but if Floyd is willing to listen to Ariza, then who knows.

I see Floyd getting hit more than ever in this fight. I actually think he'll look overwhelmed at times. I used to not feel this way about this matchup, but, I think Floyd's skills have eroded more than Manny's has. If Canelo and Maidana can both earn MD losses, there's no doubt in my mind that Manny can get an MD win.

And if Manny does win, Floyd will look back at his career and he'll come to the realization that he should've fought Manny back in 2010 when he was a more effective fighter. Basically, he'll look back on this whole long drawn out charade as a mistake.

 

Shotquiao TKO8 Primeweather

 

I have repeatedly reminded people here that Floyd hasn't looked great and struggled against Maidana, an inferior fighter than Manny. Somehow, Bernard Hopkins, Floydoids and others completely dismiss the Maidana fights as if they never happened and are talking about Floyd cruising vs Manny, 'using him as target practice'. They are also listening to guys like Ariza, who obviously is not happy at how manny's camp fired his ****.

Floyd fans need to start dealing with reality so the shock doesn't affect them physically when Pacquiao actually beats Floyd. Reality is that Manny has looked significantly better in his last 2 fights as compared to Floyd. Not only this, he's faced better competition lately - Bradley, a top p4p fighter. Maidana is on par with Algieri, seriously. I mean Algieri was undefeated and showed a lot of skill and heart when he beat provodnikov. Maidana, lost to Devon Alexander and Khan in recent years and simply is a limited fighter, tough, but limited. Algieri vs Maidana would be a toss up, for real, yet Manny totally annihilated Algieri whilst Maidana was made to look like 2nd p4p fighter vs floyd. Another thing Floydoids are obsessed with is JMM's KO of Pacquiao but they refuse to accept that Manny was actually winning that fight and JMM has a heavy hand compared to Floyd; Floyd WILL NOT KO him.

so..Floyd is older, has aged more than Pac and Pac is extremely hungry. It could not only be a Pac win but a relatively easy win. Pacquiao is faster than Floyd, throws more, is accurate and will counter Floyd every time floyd counters. I agree that Floyd should've fought Manny 5-6 years ago, he has lost more than Manny physically and everyone will see him eat his first loss on May 2nd. Again, Floyd fans need to stop thinking about the Floyd that destroyed Gatti and hat ton, this Floyd doesn't exist. The floyd that will get in the ring with Manny is the same Floyd that was in the ring with Maidana.

 

Roach will have gameplan but can pac execute it? that will be the story

 

Pac fights nothing like Maidana thats why nobody talks about it, rightfully so.

 

If you think Pacquiao is shot, ydksab.

 

You clearly don't know sarcasm and irony when you see it.

 

No tone in text. With trolls, no telling.

 

Bro that dude just trolls but i think he believes what he says. thats his excuses already.

if Pac wins, Mayweather is still prime, if Pac loses, pac was shot

trust me, theres alot of pac fans/Floyd Haters already saying this. just enjoy the fight

 

Just because he coached Toney doesn't mean he knows how to beat Toney's defense. :? Weird logic.

 

Doesn't mean much. A MLB hitter can see 1000's of curve***** in the cage, 1000's in a game, study tape on it and how he reacts, learn to throw one, catch one to see the movement, have a professional hitting instructor with years of experience seeing all different variations of the pitch teach him how to best recognize and react to it...........and said hitter could still not be very successful at recognizing and hitting the thing......what if the pitcher has a 95 mph fastball with movement and a nasty slider or deceptive changeup to complement that curve? Simply understanding something doesn't mean you can successfully overcome it, especially when other skill sets and variables matter in the outcome, beyond just planning to beat one particular thing an athlete does.

 

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