Leg exercises for power.

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by VG_Addict, Feb 23, 2015.


  1. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually you do, only a re**** would say otherwise.

    In most cases strength and conditioning is undertaken by a boxing coach, who in the vast majority of cases is severely lacking in knowledge on the subject. This is the reason a smart coach would/should employ a decent S&C coach. However, this isn't always the case because of uneducated people like yourself thinking strength and conditioning comes down to how many push ups you do and how many miles you run.
     
  2. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And S and C coach can be a great addition, especially for an athlete that is prone to overtraining.

    Mayweather, at this point in his career, would probably benefit from an S and C coach.

    Older athletes would benefit the most from an S and C coach because younger guys can get away with training harder for the most part.

    Also, overall, it's just good to be strong. I will say, if you're going to spent the majority of your time training Type X and Type 2A muscle fibers, I believe you might risk not having enough in the tank for later rounds, which is why there should be some emphasis on training your slow twitch muscle fibers.

    The only issue I could see arising is hypertrophy.
     
  3. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What you have to understand though, is a lot of these so-called S and C experts on ESB are young. They don't know about overtraining. They don't believe it's possible.

    Even in young athletes, it's possible. A lot of sports require utilizing the glycolytic energy tank, and some athletes are more resistant than others, although, I think that's where heart comes into play. But the fact remains, if you derive your energy from that tank time after time after time, an athlete is going to start breaking down at some point, regardless of what their mind is willing to do.

    Another thing, barbell squats. Look at some the older athletes that have squatted for years and years. Look at that Rippletoe. Dude probably can't move very well at all. Don't get me wrong, he might be able to run reasonably fast for a man in his condition in a straight line, but I doubt he's without pain.

    Boxing is a movement sport. It's a sport that you need to utilize things that can build the body up and heal the body rather than break it down. It's all about decisions.

    You can squat, and guys will say, oh, it's all about form. I don't know if I believe that. There are too many long term powerlifters that live with daily aches and pains and that's just counter-productive for developing athleticism.

    At the end of the day, you have to decide what's most important to you. If you look at Hopkins and some of the past greats, and Mayweather, and Pacquaio, none of them barbell squat as far as I know, yet they were the best.
     
  4. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know Virus is a big CROSSFIT guy. He loves it.

    But I believe we're going to see more and more athletes burn out from CROSSFIT in the next few years.
     
  5. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Am I? Years ago I may have said I liked it but now not so much.
     
  6. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why don't you like it now?
     
  7. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mostly because its over-hyped, dangerous bull**** with an attitude.

    The entire community is also full of egotistical assholes.
     
  8. ant-man

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    C'mon don't beat about the bush. Tell us what you really think! :D
     
  9. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    You'll gain muscle no matter what the rep range is.
     
  10. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are ways to get stronger without gaining much size. When you train for strength, you should be training your nervous system.

    If you're referring to converting muscle fibers, you're right depending on your training protocol.

    Size is gained by training your muscular system. The slow-twitch training protocol I have in my head involves exhausting the muscles, but having minimal affect on an athlete psychologically.

    If you're eating sufficiently, depending on how your body responds, you might grow.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I could never get into Crossfit mainly because I'm so antisocial, which is completely incompatible with the inclusive, collaborative, mutual-motivation herding nature of CF.

    If you can't do it by yourself w/o any other people around, I'm not interested. :yep

    Like I was only ever able to barely tolerate a personal trainer or boxing coach's presence 1-on-1.

    I prefer to work alone.
     
  12. Brixton Bomber

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    Size (real size) is gained by taking yourself to failure, eating big and getting good amounts of sleep.

    You will 'grow' no matter what you do.

    1RM on a Compound? You'll grow.

    Lifting weights in ANY capacity? You'll grow.
     
  13. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol. Lifting weights doesn't make you grow, I mean that literally.
     
  14. Brixton Bomber

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    So muscle growth isn't a side effect of lifting then?
     
  15. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Consuming more calories than you burn will add mass to your frame. How you lift weights will determine how much of that mass is muscle.

    Saying "You will 'grow' no matter what you do" is not true at all when it comes to building muscle.