Lennox Lewis. Does he have some holes in his legacy?

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  1. Frankel

    Frankel Active Member Full Member

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    your talking like Lewis hammered Vitali, yet the truth is Lewis was a very fortunate winner.
     
  2. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    A boxer opening up 3 different cuts on a fighters face that required 60 stitches, by continually punching it, is NOT fortunate.

    Whoever told you to believe that is a fvcking liar, so take no notice of them ever again.

    If you managed to think it up all by yourself, you are following the wrong sport.
     
  3. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    I also try to respect people using resume's as AT ranking, but the undeniable fact is that resume's involve politics.

    The most pertinent example of this is happening right now. Everyone with a brain knows that " the fight " should have occurred 5 years ago, but due to politics it is happening in May. ( I don't care who was at fault )

    :good
     
  4. Frankel

    Frankel Active Member Full Member

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    Headbut and racking with glove laces caused the cuts on Vitali Klitschko so dont try to make out the fight was a walk in the park for Lewis. Vitali was knocking him around like a rag doll unto it was stopped due to cuts. Lewis then promised the entire Boxing World, he would fight Vitali in a return bout. He then ran off into retirement with his trousers full of brown at the thought of The Brothers.
     
  5. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Another idiot Klitschko fan, there's more of them then there are ****roaches in the world, and the unfortunate part about that, is the ****roaches are smarter.

    There was no fuking headbutt, and I've watched this fight about 2 dozen times.

    But unlike you, I'm quite prepared to give both fighters, even V.K. props for putting on an extremely entertaining fight.
     
  6. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    The cut was from a punch, man.
     
  7. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    All 3 of the cuts were from punches. No head butts, no laces, and ( the funniest though most feeble excuse I've read ) no dreadlocks / cornrows rubbing his eye either.
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    I dunno.
    A dozen Ukrainian witnesses said the black man pulled a knife.
     
  9. MAJR

    MAJR Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The cuts was caused by punches, nobody has ever proven otherwise. It is easy to find the fight online, if you have evidence and can point out the specific moments where you claim Lewis caused the cuts with "headbutt and racking with glove laces" then please do so. Otherwise stop trying to claim this and accept the loss as legitimate.

    Vitali started strong, won the first two rounds and wobbled Lewis in the 2nd, but was fading quickly as the fight went on. In the 3rd Lewis got the better of the action, Vitali picked up his workrate in the 4th and 5th and won the cards on punch output, the 6th was clearly Lewis's round and Vitali's offense was having no effect. The fight had changed by the time of the stoppage and Lewis was getting on top, Vitali did not dominate that fight - it can't even be said that he dominated half of it becuase four of the six round, at least, were competitive.

    Lewis was old for boxing and coming towards the end of his career, he didn't have the passion or drive to continue fighting on when he'd achieved everything he set out to achieve and proved everything he had to prove. The only reason he stuck around after beating Tyson was because he thought nobody else in the divison was in his league and get a few more easy paydays out of boxing before retiring.

    Vitali proving better than Lewis thought he was forced Lewis to accept the reality that there were still dangerous opponents out there that he would have to face if he stuck around too long, and he had no desire to end up like Ali, Holmes, Foreman or Holyfield, fighting on long after his prime and losing to fighters who wouldn't have troubled him at his best.

    While it would have been good for boxing to have a rematch, and it would have been good for him to prove beyond all doubt that he was better than Vitali, he wasn't prepared to put himself through another war at that stage in his career. It had nothing to do with fear of Vitali - he'd met Vitali on equal terms already and emerged victorious - if there was any fear involved in the decision at all it was the fear of staying around too long and damaging his health and his legacy.

    Wlad had said he wouldn't be ready to fight Lewis until 2004 at the earliest and then he'd been destroyed in less than two round by a semi-retired South African and become a laughing stock. Even if Lewis stuck around until 2005 Wlad wouldn't have been high on the list of challengers, Wlad didn't reclaim his spot as one of the worlds best until 2006. Lewis's decision to retire had nothing to do with Wlad.
     
  10. CONSTAR

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    Lewis has huge gaping holes in his resume in fact his resume is donut shaped they call the hole in the middle 'vitali'
     
  11. Azzer85

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    Lets not get started on resumes.

    Its impossible to name Vitalis top ten, no wait, top five wins and keep a straight face.

    Lewis ****ed Vitali up and retired, Vitali is Lewis son for all eternity.
     
  12. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Lennox Lewis never refused to fight anyone .. Tyson and Bowe both avoided fights with him at different times in his career .. Lennox came back from his two defeats with clear victories. Lennox fought everyone that would fight him. AS far as the Klitschko fight goes, an old Lennox at the least gave a much younger Klitschko all he could handle and was landing the more damaging shots at the end .. I have no idea who would have won but that is how it played out ..
     
  13. Mendoza

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    Very true. Vitali was up 4-2 on all three cards. This means a dead tired Lewis ( more on that later ) would need to win 4 of the next 6 rounds on at least two cards to produce a draw.

    Max Kellerman, who was a Klitschko antagonists back then said he never saw Lewis as tired when he crashed down hard on his stool to end round six. Meanwhile Vitali had plenty left and showed it once he learned the fight was stopped.

    Lewis acted like an @ss in the post fight interviews, grabbing the mike with his hands from Merchant, and saying he would give a re-match. 18+ million was up for Lewis. He talked like an active fighter, tried to make other fights, and stalled. Then the WBC ordered the re-match, and Lewis quietly retired.

    He knew he would lose the re-match. By saying it multiple times, and not doing it, its a hole in his legacy. Everyone in boxing was buzzing about the re-match.
     
  14. Mendoza

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    A few things. Lewis didn't engage a past his prime older Holyfield. He just pawed with his jab for too many rounds.

    Wlad floored Povetkin 3 times ( Povetkin never down before ) and shut him out on the cards. If this is not the definition of dominance, I don't know what is. Did Wlad clinch? Yes, but Povetkin didn't have to let him clinch and charged in low, which is why we saw a lot of it. Ali cliched a lot. So did Johnson but no one seems to care about that.

    IMO, Povetkin has more left than Holyfield did in terms of these two matches.

    Lewis garbed Vital and put his weight down on him. Watch in in slow motion, then flopped on top of him and used his glove to push off Vitali instead of the mat. Possible this was done to test Vitali's knee? The fouling in Lewis vs Vitali was mostly Lewis. Did not not see him hit and hold repeatedly?
     
  15. mcvey

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    Cliched ? Garbed ? Sounds like foul tactics to me
    .:lol: