Danny Garcia partial amateur record.

Its not so much that they're "****" as that they tend to go pro in their late teens/early 20s.

A lot dont stick around to do much at amateur.

An even more extreme example of that is what you often see in Mexico where guys go pro at 16 and have 30 fights by the time they're in their early 20s

 

Name some.
And food for thought is that those "sh/t" fighters were teenagers back then.

And look at Japanes professionals, they get matched real though early in their careers. Year after year there are these "wonder kids" who go for the big time early in their pro career AND they are barely out of theire teens.

 

just look at the WBO,WBC, WBA, IBF rankings. I can find so many undefeated US fighterss who done jack **** in the amateurs. Its a ****ing joke.

Just a few if I could be bothered I could find a lot more.

Bryant Jennings
Charles Martin
Gerald Washington
Peter Quillin
Hugo Centeno Jr
Sean Monaghan
Craig Baker
Anthony Dirrell
J'Leon Love
Marcus Johnson
Keith Thurman
Cecil McCalla
Mickey Bey

And the list goes on and on. And what have they done in the Amateurs???? Nothing zip nada. Any world champions? Not even close. Any Olympic medallist? only in you dreams.

But now at the pro level they are the elite of the elite with amazing undefeated records. Or close to. If Sugar Ray Leonard was fighting in this age of padded records he would be 500-0 while shooting lightning ***** out of his ass

 

And you think, this is specific to America?

How hard do you think Id have to look to find German, British, Filipino, Mexican undefeated fighters who've done nothing as amateurs?

Also, some of the best fighters in history had non-existent or unimpressive amateur careers.

And plenty of olympic medallists were complete busts at pro.

Also, who exactly has said that Cecil McCalla is "elite"?
Or Hugo Centeno? Or Marcus Johnson etc

Young fighters are given easy fights at the start of their career, that happens in every corner of the globe

 

The only one on that list who is considered close to elite is Thurman, and the man has earned it.
I think you are just being bias against american fighters.

 

Danny Garcia was a very good amateur.. I watched him progression from when he was 12 years old!!

 

Inferiority complex.

 

Of course there is but very few compared to there US counterparts. Most none US fighters I see in the WBO,WBA,WBC,IBF rankings with these kinds of records are world amateur champions and Olympic medallist or has at least been to the Olympics. Just to name a few.

Gennady Golovkin - Olympic medalist.
Alexander Povetkin Olympic medalist
Kubrat Pulev world champion medalist
Billy Joe Saunders Olympian.
Artur Beterbiyev Olympic medalist
Matvey Korobov world champion medalist
Frankie Gavin world champion medalist
Matvey Korobov world champion medalist
Guillermo Rigondeaux Olympic medalist
Yuriorkis Gamboa Olympic medalist

Tyson Fury and Kell Brook is the most well known one I can see with an undefeated record(or close to) who done jack **** in the amateurs.

Now I'm not saying you have to have an amazing amateur record to be a great professional. Terence Crawford is a great example of that even though he did win the Pan American games.

I'm just saying I find it strange that US fighters go so many undefeated or close to fighters in the WBO,WBC,WBA,IBF rankings who done jack **** and many times they even rank higher then there undefeated none US counterparts who are world champions or olympic medalist..

Well maybe in his state but at world elite level he was a nobody. But that changed when he turned professional overnight he turned into a world class fighter. (according to his padded up record)

 

What good are those medals if they dont follow through into the pros?
Its like being a great college basketballer but never making it in the NBA.

Korobov got beaten by Lee, who while a very good amateur, never won a medal at an olympics or senior world championships

Frankie Gavin got beaten by Bundu who never won a medal at a major champiosnhips

Gamboa got beaten by a guy who never won an olympic/world championship medal

As for non-americans with undefeated records who have done little at pro, I could point to

Scott Cardle
Terry Flanagan
Adam Etches
Rick Godding
Rocky Fielding
Josh Warrington

ETC ETC ETC, and thats just Brits.

Young fighters get easy fights to build up their records, theres nothing nation specific about it

Danny Garcia isnt world class because of a padded record. Hes world class because he beat Amir Khan(Olympic medallist aged 17) and Lucas Matthyse.

You think those fights are "padding"?

Tony Thompson barely fought at amateur and beat an Olympic gold medalist twice and an olympic bronze medalist twice.

 

There is a difference between giving young fighters easy fights and have high rankings in the WBC,WBO,WBC,IBF while fighting nobodies and being 25-0

In the 80´s you would not see all these undefeated records with fighters who done jack **** in the amateurs.

If you cant see there is something seriously wrong with professional US boxers records when you compare them to there counterparts in the 80´s. In the 80´s US won everything in the amateurs but in 2015 we got more undefeated US fighters then we had in the 80´s and they done nothing in the amateurs.

But hey maybe this generation of US boxers are just more skilled then the 1980 generation. And since they so skilled who gives a **** about amateur titles.

On a personal note I got more respect for Ameatur world champions/Olympics medalist then I got for any professional boxer fighting in US. Because I know the amateur world champions/Olympic medallist has fought the best of the best and done that clean.

Can you say the same about the professional boxing world in the US???

 

Its the sanctioning bodies you seem to have an issue with

The WBC is HQ'd in Mexico
The IBF is HD'd in New Jersey
The WBA is HQ'd in Panama
The WBO is HQ'd in Puerto Rico.

This guy is currently ranked #9 in the WBO.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=544351&cat=boxer

Still think its just Americans?

 

Like I said if you would bother to scroll up of course there is none US fighers with undefeated records who rank high in WBC,IBF,WBA ,WBO who done nothing in the amateurs. There just seem to be a hell of a less of them then there US counterparts.

 

Why are you obsessed with their records as kids?

The WBO/IBF/WBA/WBC dont rank people on their amateur record.
(Ive no idea what they rank them on, because sanctioning bodies rankings are ridiculous)

Long story short...who gives a **** about amateur records?

I would expect there to be more on average from America simply because theres more American pros than any other nation

They're just a good way for promoters to sign young talent.
Besides "amateur" boxing doesn't exist anymore.

The guys in the olympics are basically all full time pros now.