Froch wants Ward in Nottingham

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  1. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    That's the thing with Chicago, it was largely pro-Golota. Ward-Froch was not one of those fights where the away fighter gets a local push as a result of immigration. Ward-Abraham was, to a certain extent considering the Armenian contingent in SoCal. I have a hard time believing Americans in AC were pro-Froch; they chose to root for Ward by default as he was the American.
     
  2. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    What are you talking about, there were more Brits in the stance in Atlantic city rooting for Froch than there were Californians rooting Ward. By the way it was Froch team that requested that the fight be held outside of Oakland where the felt Ward usually receives unfair advantages.

    Trust me if Ward fights Chavez Jr in los Angeles he won't be the hometown fighter.
     
  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    The crowd at the first fight seemed pretty even, maybe slightly pro Ward. There might have not been many Californians at the fight as Ward has such a small fan base but any neutral US fans would have been supporting Ward over Froch.

    I agree Chavez Jr in LA would clearly be the hometown fighter but he has a large fan base unlike Ward and there are plenty of Hispanics in LA.

    But the definition of a hometown fight is more than just the support of the fans at attendance but I think it's the biggest deciding factor. It's a fact that travelling to an alien environment can have a detrimental effect on a fighter and even though Ward maybe outside of his own town it's always going to be more alien for the non US fighter.

    To think the first fight was in a neutral location is ludicrous. Ward himself praised Goosen for getting all his fights in the US where he would have an advantage.
     
  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly. Whenever a person watches a sport with two combatants or opposing teams they do not actively support their decision will almost always be guided by national or ethnic lines.
     
  5. Undisputed

    Undisputed Cant G no other way Full Member

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    Why would you give this guy a Payday froch? Let the diva move up so kovalev can bring him back down to earth.
     
  6. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The reason why it looked like Ward had more fans in the crowed was because he took the fans out by limiting Froch's offense and basically winning the fight. Everytime Froch had some success the Brits cheered loudly.

    Look I'm not gonna convince you, you can think whatever you want. I will however want let you know that as I Ward fan, I prefer that Ward vs Froch takes place in not just in U.K, but in Nottingham particularly. Ward has been out for almost 2 years now but I have very little doubt that he will beat Froch in his return fight. That's how much confidence I have in him.
     
  7. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Notting is going to bring Ward out of Oakland.
     
  8. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    froch would beat ward in the rematch FACT!
     
  9. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Please go back to trolling Pav vs mayweather threads. Boxing fans are having conversation here.
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    ''Fighting away from home opens your eyes. People were knocking on my door at 4am. They took me for a medical and said they'd lost all my forms, which was nonsense. I was taken on journeys that were supposed to be 15 minutes but lasted an hour.''

    ''I lost fair and square on the night and there are no excuses but things were bad from the start. Everything is against you. The crowd, the promoter and the local people, they try to make it as uncomfortable as possible. If you win a title abroad then you're a true champion, no doubt.''

    ---Richie Woodhall on facing Keith Holmes in the US.


    Mr. Scully, How difficult is it for a fighter from North America to train for a fight at home and then leave for an overseas fight a week or two before? You hear people talk about the adjustment, time zones and stuff, what is that like? Is it a difficult process for a fighter? - Pat in Maine

    ICE: I found it to be a mentally tough task to go there partly because of all the horror stories you've heard over the years. Did I get there in enough time? Will the time change affect me? Will the climate or the water or the food and the different altitude affect me? You find yourself asking a lot of questions. I don't know if it was nerves or jet lag or a combination of both but I know that when I fought Henry Maske for the IBF title back in 1996 in Germany there was not even one night there, including the night before the fight, that I was able to fall asleep before day break.

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  11. Brighton bomber

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    I know that a crowd can be taken out of the equation when one dominates the other. I was basing my opinion upon the cheers and boos when the fighters were being introduced not during the fight.

    I'm a Ward fan too infact it was his schooling of Froch in the first fight that made me a fan of his. I wasn't impressed by him before even in the Kessler fight he looked sloppy at times but against Froch he seemed far more focused than ever before, he was practically flawless and dare I say Hopkinsesque.

    As for where the fight happens. It should be defined by where it makes the most financial sense any other reasons suggests a need for gamesmanship to get an advantage which I find distasteful.

    I too can't see what Froch can do differently. His defence is as sloppy as ever, he's still open to the left hook, his foot work is still too poor to control range against such an agile fighter like Ward who can drift in and out of range with alarming ease.

    Froch's only chance is that Ward is rusty and has lost something during his inactivity. Froch quite frankly isn't ever going to get a better chance of beating Ward because of his inactivity which is why he has welcomed the fight now that it seems Chavez Jr maybe off the table. But the odds are still massively stacked against him wherever the fight takes place.
     
  12. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Funny. I actually prefer the Kessler fight than the Froch fight. Take away the head clash, I liked Ward's meanness in that fight.

    I'm not counting Froch out. Though he's not the most skilled fighter in the world, Froch is very crafty and is capable of stopping Ward with a sneaky punch ala Groves or Taylor.
    And, if Froch doesn't fight ward a second time I won't hold it against him. The man has had a heck of a career and ducked no one. Never Bull****ted with his career and maximized his natural potential. As a boxing fan you have to respect that.
     
  13. bailey

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    I dont think Ward will fight Froch in the UK. Look how he was always the home fighter in the S6.
    I have felt that Froch has been past his best for sometime and think Ward fought a very fatigued Froch, when they met.
    Froch is even older now, but I think things could be very different if he fights Ward in the UK.
     
  14. Brighton bomber

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    I like technical fighters and I think Ward was a bit ragged and sometimes out of position in that fight. I don't think he was even at his peak against Kessler, in the Froch fight his positioning and balance was better which is why I prefer his performance against Froch.

    Yes you have to respect Froch, he's done so much with seemingly so little. I used to hate Froch. I first saw him in the amateurs when he won bronze at the world championships and was impressed but was frustrated by his continual poor technique as a pro, he makes so many mistakes it was hard for me to watch him without screaming at the TV. But the battle with Pascal, the come back against Taylor in his own back yard then the war with Kessler, the shut out against AA turned me around. I really only became a fan when he beat Bute, got to love a s****per with heart like Froch.

    He has a punchers chance no doubt put that's it, he will never win a decision and I can't see Ward crumbling like Groves did.
     
  15. Brighton bomber

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    I would be quite surprised if Ward agreed to a fight in the UK. I think he would still win in the UK or anywhere else but based upon his statements in the past he doesn't seem to want to budge regarding the location of the fight.

    I think if Ward's team can secure a Las Vegas location for the fight at a big casino that could convince Froch to travel as Froch clearly wants to fight in Vegas at some point. But it depends if a casino in Vegas can be convinced it would be worth their while as clearly all the money would require a lot of Froch fans travelling over.