Floyd Refused Pac's Request For VADA Testing and Demanded USADA...(!)

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  1. Green Man

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    Victor Conte someone who knows peds cause he was involved in a ped scandal himself talking about VADA and USADA when Lamont was caught cheating.

    "He said he was pleased because this positive was proof of what he’s been harping on for a few years, that PED usage is higher than most think, and that athletes are gaming the system because they know the existence of loopholes. Conte has said that testing heavyweight USADA (United States Anti-Doping Agency), which does the testing for U.S. Olympians, doesn't have tough-enough standards, especially as compared to VADA.

    VADA's methods caught Peterson, Conte said, while USADA's might have deemed the specimen clean. The Peterson sample detected a banned substance because a CIR (carbon isotope ratio) test was done, as per VADA's typical protocol. If USADA were doing the testing, Conte said, the CIR test would only have been done if a red flag was raised from their testosterone-to-epitestosterone test, or T/E ratio, test. Under USADA rules, if the T/E level breaches a 4-1 ratio, a CIR is then administered.

    But Conte insists that the smart cheaters know not to breach the USADA T/E ratio, so they can, say, triple the amount of synthetic testosterone in their system, and yet still not trip a USADA warning buzzer.

    "Knowing the 4 to 1 ratio is a huge loophole," Conte told me. "This is in my opinion biggest loophole in drug testing." (Note: I haven't seen official documentation regarding what the Peterson T/E ratio was. Conte's sourcing indicates that it was low enough that it would not have breached the USADA 4:1 acceptance level, or the 6:1 level allowed by the Nevada commission.)

    Conte thinks that VADA flagging the Peterson specimen will result in the embrace of the CIR test, and the jettisoning of the T/E ratio test, which he dismisses as a loophole you can fit a Mack truck through"
     
  2. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    why did mayweather refuse both usada and vada testing I thought he wants to clean up the sport?
     
  3. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    No one knows the truth really. Can only speculate. Pacquiao didn't start using VADA until 2013, coincidentally the same time some people said he became shot. Coincidence he loses speed, power, and stamina when he starts testing? I'll let you decide.
     
  4. Green Man

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    while Mayweather loses nothing cause hes allowed to cheat by USADA.:deal
     
  5. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    Listen why has Floyd rejected pac when he called for VADA when its known that vada catches people..........

    are you saying you can say for certain Floyd is not roiding with alex and memo as we speak?

    why not undergo both usada and vada?
     
  6. Zimornsky

    Zimornsky King Fluid IV = CHEAT banned

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    You mean he lost speed, power, and stamina after he got KO'd at the final stage of his career?

    :lol:

    We all know that Margarito and Algieri can both be considered TKO wins, so you can't say he wasn't knocking people out. Sadistic referees have nothing to do w/ Pac.

    :hi:

    How did I know your ho ass would be quick to defend Floyd?

    :rofl
     
  7. Swollen Liver

    Swollen Liver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hope Pac will do the same and get on juice like there's no tomorrow.
     
  8. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Why does Pacquiao have anything to do with why Floyd wouldn't do VADA testing? When was the last time USADA testing yielded a positive result that was released to the public?
     
  9. boxing_master

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    even if he wanted to he can't because usada will reveal that he has taken something Floyd can roid and usada would cover it up

    that was the point in doing BOTH usada and vada
     
  10. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both agencies are good, it would be different if he completely denied testing like PAC did for Floyd vs PAC in 09 , PAC vs jmm 3 and PAC vs jmm 4. I don't care who does the testing as long as its done. Your whole hate towards usada is because its floyds preference. If PAC did usada you would be on your knees blowing usada off like you do anything PAC related. And your whole usada being shady is just a bunch of conspiracies you create. Point is both camps knew of positive results including the boxing commission and the choice to fight were left to the camps FACT!


    I answered your question, you answer mine now. I have asked you this question multiple times with you ignoring it. Why all of a sudden the heavy out pour of excuses? Prior to the fight being signed you claimed Floyd would never fight PAC because PAC would KO him easy. I even quoted one of your post on another link with this claim. Now your lining a ton do excuses for PAC, the moment the fight got signed. If you really felt like this, why didn't you say any of this prior to the signing of the fight?

    I hope your not a representation of Filipinos .
     
  11. Swollen Liver

    Swollen Liver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal

    And with Memo Heroidia in his team, everything will be hidden.
     
  12. boxing_master

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    I remember in the mosley fight usada came up to mosley 5 days before the fight to take urine samples.......................... but for mayweather they only did it 20 days........these things don't make sense

    Floyd is on roids man anyone can see it
     
  13. boxing_master

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    trust me I know Floyd is roiding with memo and ariza I would advise pac to roid as well but usada will reveal his tests:patsch
     
  14. Zimornsky

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    USADA is **** for the reasons that I specified.

    VADA is good for the reason that I specified.
     
  15. Green Man

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    Floyd = TBC

    The Biggest Cheater.