I like GGG but he needs to move up!

DanishPride · Mar 6, 2015

No he should not move up. Did you want Haggler to move up? Nahh he should stay in his current weight and dominate it.

southpaw123 · Mar 6, 2015

damian38 said: ↑

just because he massacres the current crop of MW's means he should move up? even if he does have a chance of capturing a belt at 168, his priority is 160 as he has fought there his entire career, he should only move up for big fights, seeing as putting on even a few pounds of muscle and latter draining yourself back causes severe strain on the body, it's one of the reasons Canelo will be shot by the time he's 30
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When did I say he should come back to 160? He's proven to be the best there now it's time to test the waters elsewhere.

southpaw123 · Mar 6, 2015

plank46 said: ↑

since golovkin fights about four times a year, he has time to beat cotto, quillin, andcanelo, and still move up by this time next year.
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Ban bet right here. If all of those fights happen in the next 12 months I'll leave forever, if they don't you're gone. How does that sound.

damian38 · Mar 6, 2015

southpaw123 said: ↑

When did I say he should come back to 160? He's proven to be the best there now it's time to test the waters elsewhere.
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he has Lemieux, Quillin, Lee, Saunders or even N'Dam from the top MW's he's yet to fight

at 168 he has a Froch on the verge of calling it quits, an inactive Ward and who else? punching bag Chavez who will still be killing himself to make 168?

damian38 · Mar 6, 2015

Barcham said: ↑

The only reason I want GGG to fight Clucko is because Clucko holds the WBC title. Other than that, I think that fight is a total mismatch and that Clucko gets destroyed in three rounds. But if Clucko wasn't ready to deal with the heat, he never should have gone for the title and should give it up and let the middleweights fight for it.

As for moving up, GGG wants to unify the division. This is a valid goal and will raise his status in boxing. It will make him the only game in town for PPV fights in the division and will bring other fighters up to challenge him. He can then go for the record of MW title defenses and other MW records as well.

It is useless to compare him to other fighters who started their pro careers at a much younger age and moved to higher weight classes as their bodies matured. GGG turned pro at a late age and is a natural middleweight. He has never had any problems at all making weight and could very easily make 154 if he wished to. There is no reason at all for him to move up to SMW. It is not his natural weight and would require a significant change in training and diet for him to move to that division. Why should he do this to satisfy a handful of insignificant, over demanding fans who will never be satisfied no matter what he achieves in his career?
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exactly, they won't give him any credit, they'll say he should move up to 175 with his HW power and stop picking on SMW's :yep

shoe · Mar 6, 2015

Triple G needs to move up to light heavyweight. middleweights duck him, super middleweights duck him. i need my craving for him to be in a competitive fight right fricken now, dammit jim. either that or i'll huff and i'll puff and i'll create a bunch of dumb threads on a forum.

Loudon · Mar 6, 2015

DanishPride said: ↑

No he should not move up. Did you want Haggler to move up? Nahh he should stay in his current weight and dominate it.
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Marvin's circumstances were different.

He couldn't move up a division.

I hope GGG moves up, and I think he will, but not this year.

Gneus7 · Mar 6, 2015

Loudon said: ↑

I respect your opinion, but amateur fights from over ten years ago mean absolutely nothing whatsoever.

We're looking hypothetically, if GGG moved up and fought him now.

Andre Dirrell has many advantages.

He would would knock out DeGale easily? Based on what?

I'm a huge fan of GGG's, but I think you're getting a little carried away here.

GGG isn't that hard to hit, and he'd have his hands full with two fast southpaws who are significantly bigger than he is.

He isn't a big guy, and as yet, we've no idea how he'd fare against 6ft SMW's.
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Do you think he would beat them or they would beat him?

plank46 · Mar 6, 2015

southpaw123 said: ↑

Ban bet right here. If all of those fights happen in the next 12 months I'll leave forever, if they don't you're gone. How does that sound.
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i didn't say they will, i said they have time to.

Cisco Route · Mar 6, 2015

Barcham said: ↑

At 4 fights per year, he could clean out SMW in one year. :rofl
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The only thing Golovkin cleans out is a box full of TOMATO CANs...

southpaw123 · Mar 6, 2015

damian38 said: ↑

he has Lemieux, Quillin, Lee, Saunders or even N'Dam from the top MW's he's yet to fight

at 168 he has a Froch on the verge of calling it quits, an inactive Ward and who else? punching bag Chavez who will still be killing himself to make 168?
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Froch
Ward
Bika
Dirrell x2
Abraham
Grooves
Degale
Jcc

All are more impressive wins than any mw or blown up 154 pounder. I would like I see Lemieux but if he moved up I'd live without it. To put it simply, beating a good fighter at smw is better than beating a good fighter at mw

southpaw123 · Mar 6, 2015

plank46 said: ↑

i didn't say they will, i said they have time to.
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In other words you don't think it'll happen so why even bring it up. We know 2/3 are afraid and Canelo hasn't fought at 160. This scenario will never happen in the next 12 months and I doubt it'll ever happen.

Loudon · Mar 6, 2015

Barcham said: ↑

The only reason I want GGG to fight Clucko is because Clucko holds the WBC title. Other than that, I think that fight is a total mismatch and that Clucko gets destroyed in three rounds. But if Clucko wasn't ready to deal with the heat, he never should have gone for the title and should give it up and let the middleweights fight for it.

As for moving up, GGG wants to unify the division. This is a valid goal and will raise his status in boxing. It will make him the only game in town for PPV fights in the division and will bring other fighters up to challenge him. He can then go for the record of MW title defenses and other MW records as well.

It is useless to compare him to other fighters who started their pro careers at a much younger age and moved to higher weight classes as their bodies matured. GGG turned pro at a late age and is a natural middleweight. He has never had any problems at all making weight and could very easily make 154 if he wished to. There is no reason at all for him to move up to SMW. It is not his natural weight and would require a significant change in training and diet for him to move to that division. Why should he do this to satisfy a handful of insignificant, over demanding fans who will never be satisfied no matter what he achieves in his career?
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Again you've made some great points here.

GGG isn't a big guy who's too big for MW, and I agree that he could possibly make JMW.

Which is why I can't agree with you in that he would easily take out Andre Dirrell and James Degale at SMW.

Again, I respect your opinion.

But how does he easily take out two 6ft southpaws, who possess great skills, great speed, who weigh in as LHW's, who also possess superior reach advantages etc?

damian38 · Mar 6, 2015

southpaw123 said: ↑

Froch
Ward
Bika
Dirrell x2
Abraham
Grooves
Degale
Jcc

All are more impressive wins than any mw or blown up 154 pounder. I would like I see Lemieux but if he moved up I'd live without it. To put it simply, beating a good fighter at smw is better than beating a good fighter at mw
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Froch- on the verge of retirement, but both would want the fight, I'd have no problem with GGG fighting Froch in a one fight trip to 168
Ward- inactive for 16 months and counting, no fanbase and no reward fight

Bika- now at 175 set to fight Stevenson in April

the Dirrells- same as Ward except they are active

Abraham- has a 4th fight with Stieglitz set/ German super fight with Sturm set

Groves- needs to get back on track after getting mauled by Froch

Degale- nothing close to a big money fight at this point for GGG

JCC- can't even make 168 :rofl

killerD · Mar 6, 2015

southpaw123 said: ↑

Froch
Ward
Bika
Dirrell x2
Abraham
Grooves
Degale
Jcc

All are more impressive wins than any mw or blown up 154 pounder. I would like I see Lemieux but if he moved up I'd live without it. To put it simply, beating a good fighter at smw is better than beating a good fighter at mw
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:rofl chavez jr is a good fighter lol good one.chavez jr is just a name groves is not that good and degale is just a prospect abraham is old and past his prime bika and dirells are with gaymon so that's not happening.ward and froch are the only good fights at 168 that are worth moving up for.:deal

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