Gerry ****ey vs Evander Holyfield

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  1. Entaowed

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    Yes, insult for a black person. But the system is absurd, even normal names & terms get banned. That should be fixed.

    Cannot see ****ey winning. Giving Holyfield a handful, may well be, at best.
     
  2. clark

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    Not ****ey from '80-'81. This was not the messed up ****ey from the Spinks fiasco years later. I agree that Holyfield would stop him, but not easily. Also, this ****ey would have stopped Spinks.
     
  3. mr. magoo

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    That's how I feel.

    The version of Gerry ****ey who we saw in super fight paydays was not the wrecking machine that was coming up through the ranks between 1979-1981. When he entered the ring against Larry Holmes in June of '82 he had only seen 54 seconds of ring action in nearly two years. He fought Spinks after only having fought once in about three years, to go along with a marked history of drug and alcohol use. I won't even bother discussing the Foreman fight. Evander Holyfield would be heavily favored to beat C00ney and rightfully so, but its by no means the cake walk that some are making it out to be. Gerry was a very large man who knew how to take advantage of his size, had tremendous power and underrated skills. If a faded Pinklon Thomas, Bert Cooper and Alex Stewart could go rounds with a prime Holyfield, then I am confident that ****ey could. And this is also assuming that we're talking about Gerry C00ney the " contender" and not the semi-retired husband and father who was answering the front door in his bathrobe to accept an offer for a big payday.
     
  4. Unforgiven

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    How do you feel a prime C00ney does against Holmes then, magoo ?
     
  5. Stevie G

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    Holyfield weathers an early Clooney storm and catches his man mid rounds. The Real Deal simply has too much in his ****nal for the hard hitting but limited Clooney.


    Shame about Gerrie. He'd never have been an all time great but he'd have accomplished more had he been brought along better. After beating veteran versions of Jimmy Young,Ron Lyle and Ken Norton he should have been matched up with the likes of Trevor Berbick and some other top contenders of the time before being thrown in with Larry Holmes. The Holmes-****ey bout was touted as a superfight but I always knew that Holmes would win fairly easily.


    This is rather pathetic - Even the word A-R-S-E-N-A-L gets 'edited'
     
  6. mr. magoo

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    As it was, he went 13 rounds and probably won 4 or 5 of them, which wasn't bad at all. Two years earlier, with a bit more fire in the furnace and less ring rust, he might very well have seen the final bell, perhaps even landed some more meaningful shots, and losing a close decision or even getting lucky in an upset. That version of ****ey certainly would have had a good chance of beating the Jinx.
     
  7. Dubblechin

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  8. mr. magoo

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    Yeah I don't mind them blocking actual profanity, but when you can't even spell someone's name without getting this *****, it gets rather annoying.
     
  9. KuRuPT

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    Can't believe this many people voted for ****ey to be honest
     
  10. N_ N___

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    ****ey would take a horrifying beatdown
     
  11. Titan1

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    Call me a troll, ****ey still beats him, even if i'm the only one who feels that.Evander going to find out real quick what good Gerry was like.And if Dokes, Thomas, and Tillis were in their primes, he would've found out also.
     
  12. Ned Merrill

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    This is a match-up I pondered all through the early 90's when Holyfield was accelerating.

    I've always felt ****ey was handled poorly and treated with contempt by the media just after the Holmes defeat. Read back through the boxing magazines of that period and you'll pick-up on the negative bias many writers held for ****ey back then, to the point many just focused on his limitations and shortcomings. I think ****ey was at his very best circa 1981-82...when he was active and galvanized from the negative expressions. He was imposing, explosive and not nearly as bad as the belly-achers later made him out to be.

    For his part, Holyfield seemed to often make easy fights harder than they needed to be, given his boxing ability and his underrated footwork.

    I used to ponder seeing the Holyfield of the Foreman match, mobile and moving out of the pocket (as he did mostly, especially early). ****ey didn't have George's left jab, so to me Holy could have out-boxed Gerry and taken rounds just on sheer prudent boxing. But at some point, Gerry would connect and the fireworks would begin. It is here where I see great danger for Holy, a fighter bent on one-upmanship during moments of extreme duress. ****ey had power on the level of Tyson/Ruddock/Lewis if he could connect just right. Would Holy give him those targets and could he have absorbed the pounding and roared back?

    During those exchanges, methinks Holyfield's underrated left hook could play a big role, especially if ****ey had become of the mindset that Evander wasn't that big of a hitter.
     
  13. Ned Merrill

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    Why? Its plausible. There is no stone tablet stating that as an absolute, Holyfield would defeat ****ey, and likewise. ****ey was a fast starter and a damaging puncher. Holyfield could potentially play into that.

    I'm no troll and I'll give you another plausible one. Fast starting heavy-hooking aggressive king-sized heavyweight versus slow-starting heavy-hooking aggressive smallish heavyweight. Faceless as I have presented them, plausibility bleeds into the equation, no?

    That equation could equal Gerry ****ey vs. Joe Frazier.

    Think about it. ;)
     
  14. janitor

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    There is a stone tablet saying that C00ney never beat a man woman or child who was ranked in the top ten at the time!
     
  15. The Mongoose

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    Tillis over Holyfield, yeah right, I hea ya troll.