Pacquiao destorying cotto the best performance in the last decade?

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Some people had Clottey beating Cotto the fight before, and a year before that he was stopped earlier by Marg, so no, not even close to the best performance in the last decade.
     
  2. ValentinePrince

    ValentinePrince Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Funnily enough I think Pac's performance against Marquez IV was perhaps better
     
  3. GBoxingFeed

    GBoxingFeed Active Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao will draw a lot of comments from either side, love/hate....

    but, hyperbole aside:

    Extraordinary performance, and yes, one of the decades best.
     
  4. Typhoon

    Typhoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cotto fight was impressive because Cotto was considered tough and in his prime. Having said this, Pacquiao has had more impressive performances:

    Hatton - I mean, anything to say here?

    DLH - This was absolutely a destruction, DLH was hit non-stop for 8 rounds until he could take no more

    Margareito - Man, this was savage. I watched it for first time recently and Pac was hitting Margareito at will, re-arranging his face. Margareito kept coming and just kept getting hit... Pac was moving around him, in/out... At one point Pac was looking at the referee like saying 'Stop this fight, look at what i'm doing to him!'. Pacquiao looked incredible
     
  5. Phila215

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    ahahah destroying a drained Cotto at 145 lbs is a decade great performance?

    Jesus some people on here have no objectivity....It wasn't as impressive as a welterweight beating a 154lbs Cotto, so no
     
  6. Typhoon

    Typhoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    that's always the excuse - DLH and Cotto dehydrated. It's pathetic, really

    it's like saying 'Mayweather's defeat of Marquez was **** cause Marquez was too small and wasn't ready too move up to face Floyd'
     
  7. Phila215

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    ......Floyd defeating a large 154 fighter is 10X more impressive than Pac defeating a drained Cotto.

    Just be objective- Pac against Hatton and Margarito more impressive winners
     
  8. Phila215

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    I'm not saying Pac's win over Cotto isn't legit!

    I'm saying how in God's name is Pac's win over Cotto more impressive when he fought a 145lbs Cotto, while Mayweather fought a 154lbs Cotto.

    That's over 1 full weight-class difference...Just be objective

    If you didn't realize the title of the thread was "Best win of the decade"

    If the title was "Good wins by Pac"...I would not of said anything.

    Jesus..The partisanship on here is insane.
     
  9. Typhoon

    Typhoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    because Mayweather's win over Cotto was not impressive at all, it was tough; Cotto gave him a fight. Pacquiao ANNIHILATED Cotto to such a degree that it can be voted most impressive win. Just because Cotto was below his usual weight, doesn't mean he was that much far off from where he is at 154. I mean, i bet Floyd wouldn't have beat Cotto in the manner Manny did, even at 145-7. Fact is, that was impressive... Did Cotto win a round? he tasted canvas twice and fight had to be stopped.

    as far as Pac's most impressive win, DLH... that was an absolute destruction of all time great; much worst than Cotto. Sure, DLH was past his prime but it's the way Pacquiao crushed him. MAyweather would've NEVER been able to beat that same DLH like Pac did. DLH was overwhelmed.
     
  10. Phila215

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    Ha.."wasn't far off" ...It was a 9 lbs difference! Over 1 full weight class! 2 different fighters

    -I'm sorry, but that just shows bias on your part. I try to stay away from the May-Pac debate, but for you to dismiss a 9 lbs difference with " wasn't far of"....just shows bias on your part. The bias I try to stay away from on here.

    Then again another 9 lbs difference with Oscar....coincidence ? ha I bet in your mind these 2 9lbs differences are coincidences.....

    I really don't want to get into this debate, because it forces me to play the role of "team Mayweather", and that's not who I am.

    But there's a reason Mayweather is a 3 to 1 favorite despite Pac's age advantage. You should ask yourself why is that? then re-look at these 9 lbs again.

    :patsch:patsch It's honestly just comical to me when people point to these Oscar and Cotto fights...and say " see, Pac finished them while Floyd won UD's...Pac > Floyd" hmmm I wonder why
     
  11. Typhoon

    Typhoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    again, do you see Floyd destroying Cotto and DLH the way Pac did? even them at 145-7? NO WAY!

    It's you that is biased. AGAIN, just because Pac crushed them, people look for excuses because they find it hard to believe that Pac can be this good! talk about bias...

    as far as underdog status, wasn't Mayweather an underdog vs DLH? Wasn't Pacquiao like 3-1 underdog vs DLH? what happened? So now ODDS are proof of who is better? hmmm... not what history has shown.

    Mayweather will be favorite against anyone, due to being 47-0. Doesn't mean he will win.
     
  12. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The DLH win wasn't that great because DLH was past prime and very weight drained.
     
  13. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    yea forget about the fact pac had to jump weight classes to fight him:patsch
     
  14. Phila215

    Phila215 Active Member Full Member

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    1- Would have Mayweather probably won every round off of Oscar / Cotto if they weighed in at 145 in dominating fashion...Yes, he probably would have . Would he have finished them like Pac, probably not. Pac is the more offensively aggressive fighter, so there's a higher probability that he finishes inferior competition, whereas Floyd just makes them look amateurish.

    2- The real question is how would have Pac done against the 154 versions of Cotto and Oscar...He probably dominates Oscar relatively the same. Oscar was on his last legs, as he pretty much was against Floyd...does he finish Oscar? who knows.

    Now with Cotto, does he finish a 154 Cotto? I doubt it, still wins the fight in impressive fashion, but Cotto most certainly survives. But this is just speculation, disagreeing with my speculation is perfectly fine.

    What illustrates bias is this: acting like Pac and Floyd fought the same fighters. Not saying Pac's performance wasn't impressive, but equating their level of competition when it comes to Cotto is just plain wrong...and to do so shows bias.


    3- No one is making the argument that odds say who's the better fighter. My comment about odds was just to make the point that - if Pac's wins over "common" opponents were more impressive than Floyd's, then why is Floyd such a heavy favorite?

    My entire point for all my posts in this thread is " to equate the cotto that fought Pac to the one that fought Mayweather is foolish".
    Not that Pac sucks, or Pac's wins aren't legit, or that Pac is a cheater...It's just an objective break down of their respective resumes.
     
  15. Typhoon

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    he was past his prime but the beating was too severe... meanwhile, Mayweather also fought DLH past his prime and DLH almost beat him.

    the beating Pac put on 35 year old DLH was just ridiculous, this is why it's impressive. I don't care that he was 35 or below his usual weight, it's the way Pac won.... no way in hell does Floyd beat that same Pac that badly. People just refuse to give Pac credit for Cotto and DLH wins cause it's too scary, IT'S FRIGHTENING.