Floyd is vulnerable

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  1. hofbrau

    hofbrau Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Marquez did have time to adapt, he knew exactly what he was getting in the ring with - where Floyd is vulnerable. If you watch any of his fights, he is vulnerable in the first three rounds, very vulnerable. But he figures people out very quickly. Is he going to be able to do the same thing with Manny or is Manny going to make it a difficult night and its going to take him longer to adjust, and even if he does adjust will it be enough to take the rounds," Thurman said.

    "I think if Manny really wants to win, it's high workrate and volume....volume, volume, volume. Take the counter, take it. He's not Marquez. He is not going to knock you out. Floyd has not had a knockout in a very long time. I know he's gone through several different hand problems throughout his career. He's older and I think he likes to preserve his hands to the best of his ability and he throws what I call 'scoring blows' - one that is hard enough to snap the head back and let the judges see [that], but not hard enough where you can't walk through [it] and continue to fight."
     
  2. Typhoon

    Typhoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i think this business of Floyd 'figuring' opponents out is blown WAY WAY WAY WAY out of proportion. It's not so much that he figures them out, it's that opponents cannot keep up the level for 12 rounds because Floyd is so difficult.

    Judah and floyd went toe to toe for 5 rounds, Judah hurt Floyd twice (one should've been ruled a knock down) but he just couldn't keep it up. Floyd didn't figure him out, he just waited for Judah to get gasses and get discouraged. Floyd is so elusive, fit, strong and fast that you can hang with him for a few rounds by being very sharp but in the long run Floyd keeps his level up whilst opponents lose steam. Judah was a completely different fighter towards the end of the fight compared to beginning. Same goes for 38 year old Mosely in their fight, Mosely started strong, really hurting Floyd but Floyd just kept his level for 12 rounds whilst Mosely lost steam. Floyd forces opponents to fight a very high level for 12 rounds, this is difficult...opponents cannot take breaks, they cannot lose focus, they cannot get discouraged but it happens. In the long the run, floyd knows he has more skills and can simply wear them out mentally and physically. He systematically breaks opponents down by fighting at a high level fro 12 rounds.

    This is why i think pacquiao has a great shot, Pac can go strong fro 12 rounds, has a lot of heart so i don't see him losing steam. i also don't see Pac getting discouraged because Floyd isn't faster or more skilled than Pac, at least i don't believe so. Pacquiao is as physically gifted so he won't feel the discouragement of feeling inferior. Canelo, for instance, lacked speed and looked discouraged 'i can;t catch this guy'... Pac will run him down and will catch him.
     
  3. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's not vulnerable at all.

    Is it his fault he doesn't need to be a high volume puncher to beat everybody in such one-sided fashion? he always talks about fighting "smartly," and he does that in essentially every fight. He tries to minimize the chances he leaves himself open offensively and also attempts to minimize the amount of damage that's inflicted on him. For action-fighting fans, it might not be the most aesthetically pleasing style, but it's extremely effective and is definitely appreciated by fans who enjoy the technical side to the sport.

    I think when the time calls for him to increase his punch output, and more importantly, sit down o his counterpunches and combination punches, than he'll do just that.

    He's probably the best fighter as far as adjustments made inside the ring since guys like Ali and Robinson. There's nothing in his history as a boxer that makes me assume that he wouldn't FIGHT someone if he had to. It's just he's been fighting in 3rd and 4th gear for the majority of his career, no has has really tested him outside of Castillo in their first fight and a few, flush, singular power punches that usually only occur once every couple of fights.
     
  4. Above Deck

    Above Deck Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he is vulnerable he drops early rounds. He dropped some early rounds in the first Maidana fight, I think that is worse case scenario for Floyd. I don't think Pac can KO Floyd, if Maidana couldn't get the KO with elbows, then I doubt Pac gets it fighting fair. And he is a fair fighter.
     
  5. brando

    brando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Has Pacquiao ever gassed out? where most of Floyds opponents lost and outpointed in the middle and last few rounds.
     
  6. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your right he's not JMM he's better, you do know he has a stoppage more recent than Pac. Anyway looking forward to this one.
     
  7. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    bobitibobitibop Pacquiao Floyd Pacquiao Floyd

    Just my two cents
     
  8. thejudochop

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  9. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mosley didn't lose steam. Floyd just adjusted by the third round.
     
  10. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not so much he's vulnerable... he just likes to take the first few rounds laying back to figure out an opponent. It's more of Floyd giving the early rounds because he trusts himself enough to know he'll make the adjustments and dominant past rd 5. However, like Tyson said, Mayweather can't do this against Pac. He can't risk giving, losing a single round to him.
     
  11. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought Mosley got burnt out by the end of the 2nd round, honestly. I feel he gave everything he had into trying to knockout Floyd that round, and after that, he was empty. I remember watching a recent interview and he said himself he felt very slow and not himself after like the 3rd round. I think he was just fatigued. Not saying Mayweather didn't do any adjustments. I'm just saying Floyd waiting for opponent's to tire is always a big part of his gameplan. It's smart. Play to your opponents' weaknesses.
     
  12. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    :lol:
    mosley was shot and yes he did lose steam watch him go back to his corner in the end of round 2 huffing and puffing .......at that moment I knew instantly he would fade away
     
  13. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A left hook Mayweather hit Mosley with towards the end of the second round is what made Mosley lose steam. lol at Mosley gassing after just two rounds.
     
  14. mr. piff

    mr. piff The Ring General Full Member

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    Not sure if your being serious about Mosley being burnt out, gave everything, and being empty.
     
  15. mr. piff

    mr. piff The Ring General Full Member

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    Yup, these dudes are crazy.
    Mosley gasses after 6 minutes. Lol
    Not even really 6 mins continuous, seeing how the first rd. was a figuring out rd.