Kovalev is the New Standard Fighters

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Imperial1, Mar 9, 2015.


  1. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    If that was really the case,
    Lomachenko,
    Khytrov,
    Kovalev
    Gradovich,
    Redkach
    Fonfara
    Szpilka
    Beterbiev
    Bute
    Derevyanchenko
    Quigley
    Shabransky
    Gvozdyk
    Mekhontsev

    etc

    Wouldnt have all set up shop in America/Canada.

    As of right now, theres more money in North America in boxing than anywhere else outside of very specific circumstances.
     
  2. madpuppy

    madpuppy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No offence dude, you are not really very knowledgeable of this topic. For one big boxing events in Russia do pretty big gates and also like all high profile sports, the sponsorship money can be huge, even if it hard to understand if makes commercial sense for the sponsors. Just look at the hockey salaries in Russia versus gates!

    Kovalev made a choice to make it the the US, but it is much tougher to become a big earner there than in Russia, maybe the ceiling is higher, but he is doing it the hard way.
     
  3. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Elite fighter he is what boxing should be about , this fight againt Pascal should be way bigger
     
  4. madpuppy

    madpuppy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Astounding ignorance (well if you are American, probably not that astounding). A lot of the fighters you have included in there are Ukrainian, their country was bankrupt even before the recent war! Then you include Polish, Romanian fighters etc. Russia is a whole different kettle of fish.

    Russia is a big country and is a huge economy driven by huge oil production (although obviously hurting from the collapse in the oil price). Sponsorship dollars in Russian sport can be mindboggling, you should see some of the salaries football and hockey players are earning there. This holds true to several boxers which have cornered the market there - Kovalev could have done it too, being a world champ, but he didn't
     
  5. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    Then why didnt they go fight in Germany? Or Britain? Or Russia?

    Many of those fighters are Russian, why dont they stay and fight in Russia if the money is so good?

    For the record Im from Ireland and nearly every top Irish fighter ever had to go ply his trade in America too. Its just a fact that thats where the money is, and because of that fact, its where the best fighters are, so it means the best training/sparring is to be had there.
     
  6. madpuppy

    madpuppy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Out of the fighters you mentioned there are only 3 high profile Russian ones - Kovalev, Gradovich and Beterbiev. Kovalev and Gradovich went to America because he they were never recognised as talents in the Russian amateur system and ignored as a professionals, so they had no choice. I don't know Bererbiev story. And if you have read any of my previous posts, if you are a high profile boxer on the world stage like Povetkin and Lebedev were, you can make a lot of money fighting in front of huge audiences and having your fights shown on the main state channel with all the sponsorship.

    A Ukrainian or a Polish fighter can't do that in a current political environment.

    You certainly make big bold statements about a topic you know nothing about. Like I have said before, of course the overall pool of money for boxcing is higher than the US, but there are niches for star boxers that can be extremely lucrative and certainly much easier than trying to become a PPV star in the states.
     
  7. madpuppy

    madpuppy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It depends how he is marketed. For example Chagaev, who is Uzbek actually has had his fights on terrestrial TV in Russia and has fought in front of a big crowd in Moscow before.
     
  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Many fighters travel and fight in foreign countries when on the way up. Its what they do in world title fights that is often different.
     
  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    KO4clev feast on welsh rabbit.
     
  10. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Chagaev is ethnic tatar from uzbekistan that makes a difference too.
     
  11. madpuppy

    madpuppy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Russia has quite a few high profile MMA athletes from Chechnya though, I don't know how popular they are, but they do fight in Russia.
     
  12. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    Mekhontsev? A gold medallist in the Olympics for Russia and he goes to America.

    Oh, and I forgot Provodnikov, Grachev and Korobov
     
  13. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Very true
     
  14. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :guitar:devil:ldevil Slayer **** yea! The only fighter recently I hear any metal in his entrances is Lucas Matthysse. Vitali used to come in with Hells Bells Ac\Dc and Pavlik with Here to Stay from Korn. Fighters should come in with music to destroy and go to war, not dance the night away.
     
  15. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Thank you ! I'm sick of these party songs for ring entrances