Making weight

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  1. TERRYTIBBS

    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have a friend doing a radio piece on this subject.
     
  2. rampant

    rampant Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't agree with the whole weight cutting, there willbe a weight you are near when you are fit and healthy, imo you should work to maximise your strengths and abilities when training and not wasting time losing weight and even worse dehydrating to do it.
     
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    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    but when everyone is doing it you can be at a big disadvantage if you are not!

    Although I agree with you
     
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    BUSTER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Theres a very fine line but its not just about making weight but making weight correctly
     
  5. Camaris

    Camaris Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People have been using the 'weight trick' since time immemorial to gain an unfair advantage. Most notably David Haye.
     
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    Stevie 79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Paul Appelby got taken to hospital after getting kod by John Simpson due to dehydration issues , not sure if he was still with Billy at the time but sure i heard he was cutting something ridiculous like 11lbs the day before that fight , Its a dubious old subject many say if your fighting at a natural weight you walk around at your fighting at the wrong weight division
     
  7. RODNEY MORASH

    RODNEY MORASH C♯ Sharp or B♭ Flat Full Member

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    Could argue Ricky Hatton, although other factors clearly contributed to the end of his career he did cut ridiculous weight to get near fightweight
     
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    Stevie 79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ricky never got beat at his proper fighting weight of 140lb Light Welter , when he moved upto 147lb he admitted himself he simply wasnt string enough against the bigger guys in the clinch or pushing them about the way he could at 140lb
     
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    You're right & that's what i meant by other factors but talking only about weight he walked around hugely over his fighting weight therefore having to lose more than was healthy, i don't think it'd be a revelation to say the way he fluctuated probably cost him
     
  11. rampant

    rampant Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think you will, if you are constantly working on improving your abilities and increasing strength you will become better and stronger fighter over time whilst becominga natural at that weight.

    Your body isn't having to go through any process of losing weight and then putting it back on again.

    I'm no expert but imo a stronger better fighter will result from not having to cut weight. Your opponent may be a bit heavier than you on fight night but doesn't mean he will be stronger.
     
  12. Fightfan1912

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    Not issues with the weight in regards to themselves but their opponent the obvious one that springs to mind is Arturo Gatti vs Joey Gamache. Gamache was brutally knocked out by Gatti and suffered brain injuries which he attributed to Gattis massive weight gain on fight night. He filed a law suit against Gatti and the NYSAC because of it.

    A lot of brain injuries are caused because of hydration problems, particularly late in a fight when they are fatigued - but obviously that's not always the case.
     
  13. Jamesy1

    Jamesy1 Active Member Full Member

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    Yes
     
  14. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    Its the hard dehydrating that does the most damage both short term and long term. Cutting a bit of water is ok. If a sfw loses 7 or 8lb of water in the last 24 hrs by ****ing and some exercise sweat and maybe using something like caffeine then that aint going to be a problem to rehydrate .also it wont effect performance. But some boxers are cutting 20lb and over there is just no way u can rehydrAte properly in the given time. Dont forget the brain sits in fluid and its this fluid they are cutting. Then to take blows to the head is crazy. Any trainer encoraging there boxer to seriously dehydrate should be sued imo