Juan Manuel Marquez

About 54 guys.

 

54 tomato cans ?

 

No. YDKSAB.

 

Tell me who did he beat, beside Pacquiao ? Likar Ramos, Fedechengco, a shot Barrera , a 40 yr. old Casamayor or Baby Bull 2x ?

 

In terms of a complete fundamental skill-set, especially offense & counter-punching? No. (although facets of JCC's skill-set were/are vastly underrated, including defense where he might actually be Marquez's superior)

In terms of greatness? Yes, Chavez surpasses Marquez.

...and I like Marquez a lot more. It just isn't arguable.

I'm the biggest real (non-troll) JMM fan on here.

 

All of them and more, and I'm not really sure why you're even bringing up Ramos or Fedchenko. That's pathetic straw-manning if you're looking to put words in anybody's mouth, like someone ever said those wins rank up there with Marquez's best. :roll:

 

I remember that fight against Freddie Norwood which i think he took too soon. He made a good account for himself.


And that lucky ****** Chris John. I thought he beat him comfortably but no he didn't get the decision. Marquez shouldn't have even fought him in Indonesia or contemplated the idea of it.

 

The judges' scoring wasn't as deserving of the begrudging treatment it has been accorded in hindsight - the refereeing, however, was.

Norwood you could term a robbery.

 

With all due respect. :yep

I also consider myself the biggest Kessler fan, as the Danish posters who only posted in Kessler threads (and can't really be considered objective parties) don't really count.

 

Mexican top 5
Latino 15ish

 

lmao