A lightheavyweight that could beat Joe Frazier?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Because he plastered Foster all over the ring like spaghetti, punchers are out IMO. Frazier needs a sneak attack counter-puncher with absurd toughness. I'm thinking:

    Moore
    Charles?
    Tunney
    Galindez?

    And I'm thinking Charles and Galindez would probably get chewed up.

    Anyone got anyone on their mind, or is this too big an ask? Your light-heavyweight can weigh in as a HW of course, they don't have to be 175lbs.
     
  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Roy Jones at his best might outpoint him. Maybe Tommy Laughran?
     
  3. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1987 Thomas Hearns could defeat a 1978 Frazier for sure...
     
  4. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    None of them in his prime.
     
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    Not even M Spinks?
     
  6. Jester

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    No LHW in history would beat Frazier at his best. Only Tunney might be able to make it close.
     
  7. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Moorer. He was a superior h2h puncher 2 any fighter Frazier ever beat. It took Holyfield and old 4man time 2 stop him so Frazier did not have z power 2 stop him @ 1 KD, even if it happens. Muhammad Qawi and Michael Spinks compete 4z 2nd spot. Did i 4get any1?
     
  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Spinks certainly has the capability.

    He beat a slightly better h2h (IMO) very near the man's prime.

    Whether he would be favourite or not is another question.


    I'd give prime Tunney and Charles a chance too.

    Finally, I'd also give Roy a small chance, if he can keep away from Frazier's power for 12 rounds. Not a great chance though.
     
  9. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    The slow declined Holmes that Spinks beat is far away from a peak Frazier in terms of ability and perhaps more importantly, formidable stylistic nature against a smaller man imo.

    I see spinks getting run over in similar fashion to Ellis and Foster.

    Tunney would be crushed as well.Frazier a much tougher proposition at his best than that version of Dempsey.
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I would have to disagree that Roy has a chance. Keep ahead of that speed of pressure for twelve? Naw.

    Agree with lora about Spinks.

    Moorer is an interesting shout!
     
  11. WhyYouLittle

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    No can do.
     
  12. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The lightheavyweights are drawing slim. No, I'd actually bet money on the fact that there isn't one in all of history that could beat Joe in his prime.

    If you can't hold Joe off you, you can't win, and the man is mildly put difficult to deter. Apart from seperating him from his senses I haven't seen a surefire way, and a man that gets up six times against Foreman is hard to knock out for a light-heavyweight.

    No. The LHWs don't stand a chance. Not even Moore, who might get a knockdown on his best day, and a whoopin' on any day.
     
  13. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Interesting thread.

    Firstly i would question if any lightheavyweight would bring more to the table than Ali did in Fotc and i cannot see it.

    If Ali couldn't hold Joe off for 15 rounds then no natural 175lbs is gonna be able to achieve it for a points win and the only chance would be stopping Frazier somehow and i don't see that either.
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Rumor has it that Maske knocked him down in sparring.
     
  15. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    John Henry Lewis was insanely tough, highly skilled and had a good record against heavyweights (Joe Louis not withstanding) and deserves a mention ahead of some other names.

    That said I wouldn't give him any more than the slimmest of slim chances (perhaps 5%). Frazier was a machine in his prime.