Does Floyd Mayweather's legacy hinges on Pacquiao?

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  1. brando

    brando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    “One thing I do know about any sport: When you lose, it’s in your mind,” said Mayweather. “If you lost once, it’s in your mind. If you lost twice, it’s in your mind. From day one, I was always taught to be a winner, no matter what.”

    Mayweather has said this fight is “just another fight” for him. His words at the press conference tell a different story: “I never wanted to win a fight so bad in my life".
     
  2. TheDarkLord

    TheDarkLord Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So by that rational losing is in Floyds mind. He lost in the ams and deep down he knows he has a pro loss.
     
  3. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, losing this fight for either guy doesn't prove that their legacy was smoke and mirrors, it just proves the other guy had the style to beat them. Floyd needs to get over the idea of presenting himself as TBE, though. Pac and he are both legit ATGs and will still be that after this fight is over. I do think he over-rates himself and has presented a less than honest view of his real place in boxing history which this fight might serve to correct a little bit, though.
     
  4. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    No, because,

    1. Most importantly Paci-ow has been beaten 5 times and KTFO 3 of them.

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    2. Both are past their bests.
     
  5. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    Both of their legacy's hinge on this fight
     
  6. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    if floyd loses to someone with 5 loses, what does that make him...a fraud??
     
  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    One fight does not erase the 47 or the 64 fights before.
     
  8. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    when you have been named fighter of the decade, 4 time lineal champ, 8 division champion, 3 time fighter of the year, your legacy is sealed.

    floyd's loss meanwhile would be catasthropic.
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    No obviously not at all. Marquez has 6 or 7 losses, so does that make everyone he has beaten frauds? That's just stupid talk. People getting way too emotional over this fight.
     
  10. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    No you idiot, it makes him 47 - 1.:roll::roll::roll::roll:

    Ffs which laboratory churnes out these fvcking Pact ards?
     
  11. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    Well Floyd is a 4 time lineal champion, 11 time champion in 5 divisions and 2 time fighter of the year..so your point?
     
  12. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    When you have been voted by boxing writers as the best of your era and are a 4 time lineal champ, 5 division champion, and 3 time Fighter of the Year... your legacy is sealed.

    Both of their legacies are good to go from here out no matter what.
     
  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Depending on how you view it, he could be a 3 time FOTY, actually...

    RING in 1998 and 2007. BWAA in 2007 and 2013.

    I think 2007 and 2013 aren't really debatable.
     
  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    What do you expect?

    Every great fighter fancies themselves even better than what they are generally viewed anyways. I'm sure Holyfield thinks he's no worse than the 3rd or 4th best HW ever just as I'm sure Pavlik thinks he's a top 10 MW ever... I just recently saw an interview where either Chris Eubank or Nigel Benn (one of the two, forget which one) legit claimed they were the best UK fighter ever; better than Calzaghe, Lennox, etc... Should we think less of them for feeling that way? Who cares. It's marketing and/or confidence when they boast during their careers.
     
  15. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes an No, yes because if he never fought him it would be brought up whenever discussing him as a black mark. No because when he eventually win's it's really the expected so it's no surprise there.

    I don't get how people misconstrue that quote to me it sounds like he was taking a shot at Manny saying he's lost before so losing is always in the back of Manny's mind and he's never lost so Floyd isn't worried about a loss.

    The second part I took it as people been talking all this trash about he's scared and he's he want to prove himself now more than ever just my armchair phycology.

    Honestly when he said that and now hearing about the 10 sparring partners I think May weather may put on one of his best performances.