Waiting for boxing rivals to get old...

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  1. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    Leonard comes to mind.

    The Hagler fight when Hagler was clearly past it(Although it has to be said that Leonard was also coming of almost three years of innactivity).

    Making Hearns wait eight years for a rematch.

    Making Duran wait nine years for a rubbermatch.

    Still hes one of the greatest of all time.
     
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  2. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep this is all true.
     
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  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I have kept quoted 4 things I would like to discuss and read a response to...

    1. Do you think Leonard beating Hagler did anything for Leonards' legacy? This is opinion based, so I'm curious.

    2. Which fighter admitted to walking away from the 2009 negotiations when the other had agreed to all terms? There is only one correct answer, so I wonder if you were following boxing at the time.

    3. You think that Pacquiao "beat the **** out of" Marquez in their first three fights? Really now?! Because I've genuinely never heard any fan or member of Team Pacquiao ever make that claim.

    4. Please list whichever fights at WW you think are better for Floyds' legacy.


    Thank you.
     
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  4. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    Relax....he's just a troll....it's pretty obvious.....there isn't a normal human alive who thinks Manny beat the **** out of jmm once....let alone 3 times....not even pacs mom
     
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  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    It's well known that power is the last thing to go in a boxer. Speed and reflexes are first.

    To anyone who thinks Floyd is feather fisted and has little to no power, which I've read many times on these forums, then they must HEAVILY disagree with you.
     
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  6. kragz

    kragz 49*-0 Full Member

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    Firstly, not sure if you know but looks like somebody has stolen your vcash. If you ask a mod they might look into it for you.

    1. I wasn't claiming it didn't. My point was that Leonard waiting for Hagler to get old is among the many things that people remember about that fight. Hagler had barely slowed and was coming off of two career-high wins. The point being imagine a Floyd victory over this version of Pacquiao

    2. Manny agreed to all the terms except for one, which Floyd was unshakable on. Floyd didn't want to negotiate and wanted to dictate all the terms despite having not fought for over 2 years. Which fighter was it that constantly and openly avoided the other from 2009 up until now?

    3. Those knockdowns say otherwise.

    4. While Manny is #2 WW, people are so hyped for this fight they think a win over him equates to a 2009 win over Manny. This is pure delusion. It would be a good win, granted. But it would be remembered for what it was.
     
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  7. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was the right time.
     
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  8. kragz

    kragz 49*-0 Full Member

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    :lol:
    "The time is now"

    :lol:
     
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  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    0. Yes. My vCash total. Very intuitive of you!

    1. OK but it didn't happen in 2010...

    2. ...because Pacquiao refused drug testing and walked away from the fight.

    3. Yes, because knockdowns are the only things that matter. Of course. I forgot. Silly me.

    4. Nobody is equating Pacquiao now to a 2009 Pacquiao. Just like if Pacquiao wins, it will not be the same as beating a 2009 Mayweather. It is 2015 now and we all know it.
     
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