Roy Jones jnr vs Sergey Kvalev @ 175

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  1. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Back when I was single I slept all night with that song on repeat... It was magical.:lol:
     
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    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    lol yeah, it was nice and relaxing.

    This one makes me sleepy.

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  3. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    I thought youd crop up again to make a snidey *****y whiny comment

    Heres my reply

    **** off :hi:
     
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    Oh well,

    If that is the level of argumentation you are capable of at your best, I guess I will not waste anymore of my time with you :D. Dumb is dumb and **** is ****. They will be what they are. Regardless, of what arguments you bring in front of them. :lol:
     
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    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who was the favourite going in?
    Jones had only suffered one legit defeat
     
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    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    He rated him highly.

    To paint the picture, he is a casual sports fan, but being German and growing up there, followed who he was watching, so Michalczewski, Maske, Rocchigiani. Even now having lived in England for many years knows who is popular where his family live and still watches German TV. He knows Sturm who is based in Cologne, which is the area he comes from.

    He felt Rocchigiani deserved the first fight against Maske, but also was a fan of Rocch
     
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    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Goes without saying. Shot, bloated, semi retired, damaged hands Calzaghe was able to go up and dominate
     
  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    It wasnt at LHW either, that conversation :patsch. You are trying desperately hard to bend the truth for some reason. Why?
     
  9. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Roy was..

    Johnson got upset of the year I think.
     
  10. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Glad you mentioned it, because as much as you'd like to compare Pascal with Woods, Clinton was in NOTHING like the state Kov put him in on Saturday night when Clinton's fight was stopped by his own corner.

    The facts rather than opinions and excuses show that Jones's power pales into insignificance at L / Heavy compared to his lighter weight(s) career. Lower he is 32 fights with 28 stoppages.

    At 175 he was far from being a great puncher, never mind a murderous one like Kov.

    Furthermore huge punchers do NOT settle for points wins until they realise they can't get the other guy out of there. So save your Roid was happy decision guys nonsense for Loudon and the other Jones fanboys who are more than willing to accept it.

    Again you and young Loudon can offer all the excuses and unprovable opinions you care to, but the facts are Jones was Ko'd at 175 by 2 guys older than him, with one of them having EXACTLY the same amount of fights as Jones had.

    You can cry, sh it , and stamp in it all you like about what you think with regard to fighters ageing differently, and the timing of the effects it has on them, but neither you or any other Jones fanboy has got a fvcking clue about what damaging effects Johnson or Tarver suffered in their careers prior to fighting Jones.

    Once again the FACTS and STATS show that Kov is a massive, massive puncher at 175, and Jones isn't. The FACTS and STATS also prove that lesser punchers than Kov have put Jones out, and asleep.

    As I expect a retort with more " yeah, but Roid this, or Roid that " I will copy and paste the last paragraph pertaining to facts to save myself some time.
     
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    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    You entered an argument you can't win. Lots of fighters crack back after being hit. Though that was not the point I was trying to make.
     
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    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    I was giving Kovalev credit. A simple I agree would have been fine, much better than another stupid ass Roid rant.
     
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    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    No kidding but Roy had the power to back Clinton up, being as how Clinton is very tough and has an iron chin, I would say it means something that Woods' trainer didn't want him to take any more damage.

    He likely had more power at the lighter weights, but he still had great power at LHW.. I don't know if you have heard the equation speed = power? It is very real.

    Different kind of power.. Kov has much more brute force power, Jones' was more of a crisp speed power. Answer this, has Roy had any one punch stoppages at LHW? I can think of a few, with both hands, one of them I even believe Roy's feet were not on the canvas.:yikes

    The more you post on Roy, the less I feel you know about him and even doubt you watched his career like I did. He is quoted saying he was trying to preserve his hands, because his power often led to hand trouble.. It is also a known fact that Roy's style changed to a pot shot style and didn't want to risk going for a KO unless it was there to be had. His mindset was not always to go out and take the guys head off, and it likely did lower his "factual statistics" but It doesn't mean he couldn't punch.

    You and your statistical "facts" don't mean sh it to me and to be honest this "older" thing makes you sound desperate.. There was no significant age difference in Johnson/Tarver/Jones.

    No, I don't know the effects on Tarver's and Johnson's body but the facts state that Roy was done at the elite level and Tarver and Johson were not.. Are you denying that fighters age differently? Or is it all as simple as age/number of fights? I honestly don't think it is that simple, and you also have to factor in the styles of the fighters.


    Kovalev is a massive puncher, probably even more so than Roy, but he also fights much different than Roy, and is always looking for a KO, willing to take a shot to land his, something Roy was not willing to do. Roy had a safety first mentality, espesically as he got older... I feel like I shouldn't have to explain this to a grown man. . Roy has knocked out 43 professional fighters in his career, and hurt a HW... If you wan't to keep telling yourself he wasn't a puncher at LHW, fine, be stupid.

    You are not even a challenge for me.
     
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    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Against a 190 + Kov, dream on. Now who is being stupid? His only chance to see any more than 3 rounds would be to come in at 190 himself. At 175 a Kov jab puts him on his ass.:rofl:rofl:rofl

    And I couldn't care less how fast he was. Mosley was very fast, and the taller, rangier Forrest soon sorted that out with good timing, which Kov has in abundance.

    I sometimes wonder if you know anything about boxing, or merely a lot about Roid Jones?


    :good