Was Kovalev/Pascal A Bad Stoppage

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Mod-Mania, Mar 15, 2015.

  1. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2005
    Messages:
    32,032
    Likes Received:
    3,336
    In fact I've been married for nearly 15 years. But my wife isn't a glass jaw aficionado.:hey
     
  2. Ms. Zakman

    Ms. Zakman New Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2009
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    So are glass jaws transparent or solid so you can't see through them?
    I am Ms. Zakman.
     
  3. puncherschance

    puncherschance Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2012
    Messages:
    4,818
    Likes Received:
    241
    watched it again and can't help but think it indeed was a bad stoppage. it is possible that refs will always have the fact that kovalev killed someone in the back of their minds and rightfully so.

    i also can't help but notice how bad kovalev looked, he was walking into shots and getting hit w big shots, if he fights like that against stevenson he will be in big trouble.
     
  4. The Devil

    The Devil Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2014
    Messages:
    2,418
    Likes Received:
    138
    It was a justified stoppage if you ask me. Pascal was well behind on the scorecards and had hit Kovalev with his Sunday best only to see Sergey walk right through them. The fight was only going one way and that was with Pascal flat on his back. Kovalev was in total control of the contest (it wasn't much of a contest really) and had Pascal shook to his boots.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2006
    Messages:
    404,288
    Likes Received:
    86,365
    Let me ask Bad-Stoppers this:

    If not for Kovalev's slip distracting Pabon's attention from Pascal - would you have been okay with him waving it off then, with Pascal flopping against the ropes glassy-eyed? :think

    You might argue that stopping it as soon as Kovalev rushed Pascal and landed one hard right hand after time-in was a little awkward, but if your answer to my question above is "yes" then really it was a late, not early stoppage, anyway. ;) So the confusion of the slip just kind of delayed things a few seconds, but it smoothed itself out in the end.
     
  6. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2011
    Messages:
    10,519
    Likes Received:
    1,132
    He only looked 'bad' because no one expects to see kovalev in a remotely competitive fight. In reality yes pascal landed a few big counters but it was hardly even competitive for the most part. if someone who didn't know either fighter (or their reputation) watched that fight then I can guarantee it would not be kovalev they were saying looked 'bad'

    Put it this way, if pascal made kovalev look bad then kovalev made pascal look like he'd never been in a ring.
     
  7. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2013
    Messages:
    25,429
    Likes Received:
    19,509
    See Lebedev-Jones Jr fight. That's how Pascal would have ended up.
     
  8. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2004
    Messages:
    6,351
    Likes Received:
    81
    Some people tend to forget so easily!
     
  9. puncherschance

    puncherschance Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2012
    Messages:
    4,818
    Likes Received:
    241
    99% chance kovalev would have won that fight had the fight been allowed to continue we all know that, what i'm saying is pascal had some good rounds and did better than anyone i have seen against the krusher..... w that being said, there is no way kovalev gets away w that kind of performance against stevenson and ward would outright school him and really make him look BAD!!!
     
  10. plank46

    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2013
    Messages:
    9,475
    Likes Received:
    83
    what the hell is looptid? go take some remedial english classes.
     
  11. plank46

    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2013
    Messages:
    9,475
    Likes Received:
    83
    stevensons shaky chin won't hold up long enough for him to land any.
     
  12. box4life11

    box4life11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2009
    Messages:
    13,614
    Likes Received:
    18
    Great stoppage
     
  13. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2007
    Messages:
    15,541
    Likes Received:
    5,277
    Quite a few morons out there. Pascal stumbles all the way across the ring while the ref's back is turned. Unable to take one step without losing his equilibrium. So he stands against the ropes, so he can stay up right. The fight should have been stopped right there. The ref lets it continue, and Pascal eats two more hard shots against the ropes, before the ref intervenes. It was stopped too late, yet you have idiots saying the ref stopped it too early.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2006
    Messages:
    404,288
    Likes Received:
    86,365
    :deal Yep, why I asked this:

     
  15. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2005
    Messages:
    32,032
    Likes Received:
    3,336
    That would have at least been somewhat justifiable, but I would still say too soon because he was still on his feet, still conscious. Generally speaking, my view is that a fight should end conclusively before it stopped. I am also, in general, for tolling the full ten count, like they did in the old days. You should make 100 percent sure it is in fact over before it is waved off.