Is Willie Pep 'The Greatest'?

I think you can only make a strong case for SRR, Langford, Greb or Armstrong. Once you get to #5 (imo that's Ezzard Charles), any argument becomes a lot weaker.

 

Honestly he has a lot more than a few good names if you really look into it.

 

He's a to 5 most skilled boxer of all time but he lacks in the resume department.

 

There was a thread in the classic section about 3 years ago where a poster was trying to claim Pep's peak record of 130-0 made him the best ever. He was dismissed of much arguing and going around in circles.

On a side note, i met and spoke with Pep in the early 2000's at Foxwoods casino at some fights. He was as down to earth and funny as could be expected. A complete and classy gentleman. Im sure he soon forgot me, but as a oxing fan it was a lasting memory for me.

 

I don't think so, but for people saying his resume is bad doesn't his have like the highest number of HoF's beaten?

 

Well I will say this, if you are trying to make a case you have more ways to prove it than you would for Grebb. I don't get why ppl love that guy so much. Can't find much footage on him and the footage you do find leaves myself less than impressed.

 

You can find plenty of footage of his opponents and his resume speaks for itself.

 

But have you seen him fight? I've seen a limited sparing session and I can't say he looked all that great

 

I have looked into it.

 

youtube. it's good.

 

That was footage of him goofing around. Do any of us really think that guy could beat Tunney? He did though and arguably more than once. You dont need to see a fighter if you seen many of his opponents. There is also plenty of newspaper articles and fighter testimony as to Grebs ability and greatness.

 

Obviously the first place I searched. Only thing I found was training footage. If you have anything else please send it over. I can't say if he is as good as some people claim but then again I can't argue it. But again the training footage left me unimpressed

 

He lost to him multiple times...

 

my bad, assumed you meant pep.

the greb footage doesn't even qualify as a sparring session imo, just 2 guys, the other one way too old to be a sparring partner, ****ing about for the camera.

 

And all you can say is he has a padded record? Take away all that padding and he still has fought and beat more great fighters than 99.9% of every other fighters who ever lived. Instead of focusing on the guys outside the top ten focus on the guys he beat in it. Than keep in mind there was a deeper talent pol and only one title.