Roy Jones jnr vs Sergey Kvalev @ 175

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  1. Buonaparte

    Buonaparte Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, no one would disagree with this, but the question is could he even land on a prime Jones jnr?

    Answer. No. Kovalev has power, but not hand speed.

    You can have all the power known to man, but if you can't land your shots it isn't going to help you.
     
  2. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    We need some quotes. Who is saying this? :lol:
     
  3. RazzAxx

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    Kovalev has very strong boxing fundamentals technically (while he does lose some of that when going all out offensive) and he has KO power in both of his hands. He has good eye and he trusts his chin enough to leave himself open to execute the killer punch. RJJ's peak as a boxer was at 168 in my opinion and his performances in higher weight classes were not that impressive. Some of the quickness and fluidity in movement was lost.

    Imagine roid doing his jumping left hook while Kovalev times it and bombs a right hand with his feet planted.

    Lights out.

    It is a very interesting fantasy fight and I would put my money on Kovalev.
     
  4. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jones in his prime kept the heat on you for all 12 rounds. Roy was a pretty good lhw in his prime, but he wasn't a natural lhw. Roy loved when guys came at him. To think that Roy gets caught by jumping in wihile throwing his blazing left hook is assinine. Again, people judge Roy after age 35 and not before. Tisk, Tisk. Pascal ain't Roy.
     
  5. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    I wouldve bet all my money on a prime roy jones easily beat Kovalev. Kovalev doesnt have any defense at all which he's easy to hit. Roy is very good at blocking punches with his gloves and in roy jones he's very good at counter punch and can snap with pop right hands which i could see roy pop quick right hands to kovalev all night long. Jones speed would be way too much of kovalev. Would kovalen had a puncher chance? Of course but thats it. Roy would easily beat Kovalev. Ppl are really really overrating Kovalev.
     
  6. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    When Kov has shown us longevity, we will revisit this fight. Until then, your comparisons are just premature dyckridulation on Kovs part.
     
  7. RazzAxx

    RazzAxx Active Member Full Member

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    Obviously, it is not very likely, that Kovalev would be able to tag RJJ when he does his jumping left hook, but in a fantasy fight and in any fight it is a possible scenario and just the picture of imagining RJJ jumping for left hook while kovalev hits his right is as legendary as something like JMM against Pac. JMM did that same punch dozens of times in their fights and one time he was able to make a home run. In a fantasy scenario Kovalev has same chance against RJJ.
    Of course, the most probable outcome would be Sergei pressuring. pressuring. Getting RJJ in the ropes and KO. In my opinion at 175 weight class.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Buonaparte,


    Hi mate, thanks a lot for your message.

    For some strange reason, I'm not able to PM anyone at the moment.


    Regarding any books, unfortunately, I don't believe that there are any books available about Roy, surprisingly enough. He's never done an autobiography, and nobody to my knowledge has written a biography. All my information comes from documentaries, pre fight build ups, and old interviews from magazines etc.

    I'm hoping that when he retires, he'll write his autobiography. In fact, I'm almost certain he will. I can recommend other great books regarding boxing and bare knuckle boxing though.

    But what I can do for you regarding information on Roy, is post you a link to what in my opinion is the best article that's ever been written about him, detailing his childhood and his relationship with his father. If you haven't seen it before, it's a fascinating read.

    It's an article from June, 1995, by Gary Smith, for Sports Illustrated magazine, titled - 'One Tough Bird'

    Have a look, and tell me what you think.


    http://www.si.com/vault/1995/06/26/...ed-under-the-rules-of-****fighting-win-or-die


    Regards, Loudon.


    :good
     
  9. BlizzyBlizz

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    I'll judge them after Kov gets some big wins under his belt. Until then it's a premature fantay fight. One guy is great who has pretty much completed his career while the other is just starting.
     
  10. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Jones had the Hopkins and the Toney win. Then for the next decade he fought a bunch of civil servants. Literally. Beating Grant, Hall, Frazier, Kelly, Gonzalez, etc doesn't mean anything. He never fought the #1 Light Heavyweight. He was knocked out by Tarver and knocked unconscious by Johnson. What are we supposed to be so impressed with during Jones Light Heavyweight reign? :huh

    Yes the Hopkins win (well after the fact) and the Toney wins were very good but that doesn't excuse a guy for the putrid opponents he had at Light Heavcyweight while ducking the #1 guy.
     
  11. Mind Reader

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    That shot would be very hard to time.. Especially as Roy is moving to the right of Kovalev and not straight forward. I wouldn't put money on Roy being caught with that one.

    Kovalev would have a more success trapping Jones on the ropes... If this fight stayed in the center of the ring I think Kovalev gets schooled.
     
  12. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Jones' LHW competition was better than DM's and I honestly believe Roy was willing to fight him, just not in Germany.
     
  13. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    And Kov has beaten who? And why are you picking on a 35 year old Roy?

    I told you before I don't respect your boxing opinion. So don't talk to me about this sport. I clearly have no respect for you, none!

    You couldn't wouldn't and will never understand the mindset, win and losses by decision or ko of fighters. Right now you have diarrhea of the mouth. There should be a forum for uninformed posters like you to post in. Go post there.
     
  14. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Here is my issue with that statement. DM beat Hill first when it actually mattered. When Jones fought him it was meaningless. Hill was willing to go over there to fight and lost fair and square. Now not saying Hill was 'shot' or anything when Jones fought him just that that win didn't mean anything. The Tarver win was a good one also for Roy as DM was done by that time anyway.

    The WBA and IBF Light Heavyweight belts from the time DM beat Hill were mere trinkets. They didn't mean anything just as the IBF and WBA belts that were stripped/vacated by Lennox Lewis at Heavyweight didn't mean anything. Roy 'unifying' a bunch of belts was meaningless at the time. He wasn't THE champion no matter how many belts he paraded around with.

    What I am saying is from mid 1997 to the end of 2003 when DM lost those belts didn't mean a thing.
     
  15. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jones beat Hop in his prime, and lost to him after his prime was done.


    Now did Kov beat Hop in his prime? Who has Kov beat that was tough as John Ruiz? These guys attempt to bring up DM, and DM was actually knocked out by Roccoghiani and had the loss turned into a DQ. Jones won a piece of the lhw title before DM beat Hill. Why was Jones supposed to go to Germany anyway? Good post Mind.