Roy Jones jnr vs Sergey Kvalev @ 175

Um, that was kinda my point. Who did Jones beat that was so damn impressive at Light Heavyweight?

 

Can't really take someone serious that would say something like this. Do you even watch Boxing? :rofl

 

I disagree with beating Hill not meaning anything, especially the way he won. Titles don't make the fighter.

Did you consider Roy the man at the weight after beating Tarver?

Kovalev and GGG are not lineal. Are their belts meaningless too?

I don't agree, DM vacated the IBF, which Roy won by beating Reggie Johnson. That was a decent win, a much better win than many of DM's defenses... Have you seen some of those scrubs he fought?

 

Good, then maybe you quote me anymore. And for the record, Hill fought Jones right after DM. You said that Jones winning or that fight didn't mean anything. It meant something to Hill you clueless *******. Jones has a number of lhw defenses against good comp and he beat Ruiz and he beat Tarver before he lost to him at age 35. Kov has...? We'll see where Kov's career is 7 years after beating Hop.

 

Yes I have seen the scrubs he fought like Nicky Piper :rofl Mark Prince etc. but lets not forget Jones had his share of them too at the time. They fought essentially the same guys DM fought:

Hill
Hall X2
Rocchigiani X2
Griffin
Harmon
Gonzalez (L)

DM beat Hill when it mattered. That is my only point.

Kovalev and GGG are not in the same situation Jones was in by avoiding the #1 guy in their respective divisions it is actually the opposite.

Roy being "the man" after beating Tarver is kinda iffy I can see an argument for both sides of yes and no.

 

Jones had mediocre defenses at Light Heavyweight. The division was weak and he wouldn't fight the #1 guy. That is Roy's fault not mine.

 

Buonaparte,


Here's two more links for you that you may find interesting:


http://www.nytimes.com/1989/03/01/sports/boxing-a-boxer-s-father-who-won-t-let-go.html

http://articles.latimes.com/1994-11-17/sports/sp-63896_1_roy-jones-jr


:good

 

Prime Jones can do it. His speed and reflexes would be more than enough to get the win. His awkwardness I believe would also play a factor as well. Add those three attributes with power, and your dealing with a major problem, but if Sergey can connect. I have no doubt he would of KO Jones.

 

Why do you still persist with this nonsense?

 

Let me ask you this regarding John Ruiz.

If he was so hopeless, why didn't every HW who he fought beat him with ease?

You talk about him as though he was a domestic level guy.

You say he had absolutely NOTHING to offer as a fighter, no skills or anything.

Well how did he end up beating Holyfield then?

Because a domestic level HW couldn't have beaten Holy from the early 00's.

 

Who beat those guys better?

Hill - Dariusz got to him first, and took his titles. It was his best win. Roy beat him afterwards and stopped him in just 4 rounds. Roy was the only person to knock him out in his entire career.

Hall - Roy gave him a merciless hiding. Dariusz then fought him twice over 18 months-2 years later, and Hall caused him some problems before Dariusz went on to stop him in both fights.

Roch - In their first fight, Dariusz disgracefully cheated against him after he'd received a light tap, after a break was called. In their second fight, he scored a good stoppage of him.

Griffin - Roy went crazy in their first fight, deservedly getting himself disqualified. In the rematch, Roy knocked him out in under three mins in devastating fashion. Dariusz went on to knock him out in 4 rounds, two years later.

Harmon - When Dariusz was interviewed just prior to Roy's fight against Harmon, he was asked if he'd be watching the fight. He responded by saying that he had no interest in seeing Roy fight a guy of that caliber. Yet he went on to fight him himself, over two years later.

Gonzalez - Roy beat him with ease. Dariusz lost to him two years later, when he was faded and past his best.


Then factor in Roy's easy wins over Reggie and Clinton, and a win over Eric Harding who was a big southpaw who'd beaten Tarver.

Then there's the Tarver victory, after he'd dropped back from HW, to reclaim the titles.


Dariusz had more fights at the weight, so his stats look better on paper.

But Roy had the overall better wins.

It was quality over quantity.


And you can quit all this nonsense about Roy ducking him. Roy not wanting to go to Germany, to put up three belts against one, does not constitute as ducking.

Look at what each fighter did afterwards.

Roy tried to fight Hopkins again, and then he went and fought Ruiz and Tarver.

Whereas Dariusz was happy to fight whoever Kohl put in front of him for WBO title fights, against the likes of Joey DeGrandis.

You're a fool if you think that Dariusz seriously wanted Roy and other big fights.

 

atsch