Pair off the other top 10 Welterweights into who you'd most like to see face who:

Ok, but isn't Ring kind of semi-official (or at least brings some prestige) while TBR is just an internet website?

 

Khan vs brook
Thurman vs porter
Marquez vs maidana
Bradley vs rios

 

To be fair, the first fight happened about 5 years ago. From the rankings standpoint, imo Abraham is definitely deserving the top 2 ranking, since he has rebuilt himself and is now a champion (also the absence/inactivity of some fighters is a factor as well). Froch has now a legit chance to finally win the lineal belt, but I'm not sure that it will last too long, since DeGale/Dirrell winner could be rated inside top 2, and Ward is coming back soon as well.

 

Marquez vs Khan
Bradley vs Maidana
Brook vs Chaves
Thurman vs Porter

tbh, I'm really only interested in Marquez/Pacquiao VI, Brook/Khan, Bradley/Maidana, and Thurman/Porter.

Chaves does not belong in the top 10, not at all.

 

Froch would rightfully be the favorite, but I wouldn't call it a mismatch. It would actually be an unification fight with the Ring belt on the line as well, so I'm not sure that either one would be hated. Also, Abraham is a bigger name than Chavez Jr, so Froch could possibly make more money as well. Although, to be fair, Abraham is not willing to move out of Germany and I doubt that Froch's management is looking towards that fight either.

I agree with that example. Also, the Ring would probably award GGG vs #3 with the lineal belt if that was the case. The only difference between the example and the current situation is that Froch didn't "just" beat Abraham. It happened 5 years ago and since then, both men managed to reestablish themselves as the top guys in the division.

Of course, if Andre Ward wins his comeback fight, I'd expect him to receive a high rank as well, possibly even one of the top 2 spots, so I doubt that we will have this situation for long.

 

I only want to see Marquez v Brook

In his prime Marquez would have destroyed Brook

Now id heavily favour Brook

But if he wants one last crack at it, then so be it

If he gets stopped though, id kill myself

 

Well, I'm not sure about that. Chavez Jr's biggest fight to date was against Sergio Martinez, and his purse was $3mil. He has a lot of Mexican fans which would put his fight against a big name opponent on PPV (so far only Martinez), but that's about it.

Abraham makes more money than Chavez Jr, and he is known to the US boxing fans (as opposed to Chavez in Europe), so HBO would most likely pick up the fight. Also, German RAN is huge in terms of TV revenue and generates more than Sky Sports for boxing matches (not sure about the Box Office, but Sky also shows every Abraham fight, and Froch-Abraham II would be on Box Office as well).

So basically, Abraham brings:

* RAN money
* Sky Box Office
* Regular HBO
* Possible stadium showdown or at least an elite arena (like O2 Berlin for example)

Chavez Jr:

* HBO/SHO PPV
* Sky Box Office
* Las Vegas Casino venue
* Zero German TV

 

No.

The Ring was bought by Oscar de la Hoya some years ago.

Why do you think their fighters are often undeserving of their high rank?

 

No. You did say both of those things that I said you did in the post you're responding to here.

We talked about it after both fights and you were honest with yourself then. I'm not going to dig through all your garbage posts to find them. But I linked you to your statements before and you admitted to being laughably wrong thinking Carlos Molina and Emmanuel Taylor would beat Broner, with Broner's only chance being paid-off-judges. You were very wrong. You even picked Broner to beat Maidana via robbery. Wrong there too.

I won't pretend to know how you thought Broner/Molina would play out. I didn't read any of your predictions for that. Maybe you learned your lesson by then. But probably not.

 

I'm not some Ring magazine supporter (their rankings are often strange, not to mention the silly p4p thing) but considering its history, it surely brings more importance than an internet website.