Roy Jones jnr vs Sergey Kvalev @ 175

Calm down.

Ha!

I'm just asking Rico a question.

My opinion of Ruiz, is that he was truly awful to watch, with a horrible style, but he was effective.

Now if you read Rico's posts, he says the guy literally had no skills to speak of whatsoever. Which is obviously a gross exaggeration. Because boxing as you well know, has levels.

Granted, Evander was past his best. But he wasn't shot, as he proved in 2008, when he was robbed against Valuev. Let's look at some domestic level HW's, such as Martin Rogan and Sam Se*ton etc. Now I don't want to disrespect those guys, but could they have beaten the versions of Evander from the early 00's? I think it's fair to assume that they wouldn't have. Again, despite being past his best, that version of Evander was still a world class HW. I bet that that version of Evander could beat a fair few of today's top 20 guys. So again, the point is this: John Ruiz had to have been better than what you guys are saying. Otherwise Evander, Rahman and Golota etc, would have just breezed through him, no questions asked. But they didn't. So he clearly wasn't USELESS, and I haven't tried to elevate him to an A class HW.


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I always try to be objective on every topic I debate.

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It works both ways, and that's why this is a great thread.

Sergey has fought nobody with Roy's speed and skills.

We've no idea how he'd have approached the fight.

Would Roy have just been another opponent to him? Or would he have fought in a different manner to what we've currently be seeing, because he'd have been wary of Roy's offense?

These are genuine questions.

Everyone's assuming he'd have walked Roy down, without a care in the world.

But again, we don't know how he'd have approached the fight, or how he'd have reacted if Roy had either repeatedly tagged him, or hit him with something big early.

It's more than possible that despite his truly devastating power, that he could have been deterred from going forward, and he could have been backed up by Roy.

We don't know.

But you'd have to be a fool not to respect Roy's offense.

I think there's a good chance that he'd have been cautious.

In my opinion, he clearly has no respect for these guys he's currently fighting, and his confidence seems through the roof. But against Roy, that may have changed.


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Faagjective?

 

Oh yeah i remember glen johnson koing a prime jones? Jones was still in his prime?? Really still a prime Jones? LMAO!1 Only an idiot moron still thinks thats the same prime jones that fought gonzales got ko by johnson. Anybody that is really a boxing fan knows johnson ko a decline roy jones. Roy Jones hasnt been the same since moving back down at light heavyweight. Jones prime career was over when he move down in weight.

 

Yeah your right jones took steriods in every fights just like most other fighters took steriods in every fights smh. Stop being dumb.

 

A demented chimp?

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We know about Roy's fundamental flaws, and how it affected him when he was older, against the likes of Glen Johnson.

But this thread is regarding Kov vs Roy at his best at LHW.

Roy in his late 20's, was a completely different guy to the one who fought Glen Johnson.

Seriously, go and find me one poster who isn't a troll, who would have bet big money on Glen, if he'd have fought Roy at say, 28.

 

I haven't read it for ten years.

But what a man.

A slim looking MW, who could knock out HW's.

I bet you could order it online for a only a few pounds.


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