If Maidana can land on Floyd then he'll get more with Pacquiao

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  1. hofbrau

    hofbrau Well-Known Member Full Member

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    "In his last two fights Floyd has slowed down. All you have to do is slow down a fraction [to be vulnerable] with someone like Pacquiao. Against Maidana he looked ordinary. I think both fights were ordinary. He definitely won, but if someone like Maidana is laying gloves on you then someone like Pacquiao is going to put a hell of a lot more leather down," Justine Fortune said.
     
  2. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    He would be screwed if this was Prime Pacquiao, but luckily he's not facing that version.
     
  3. Moanamchara

    Moanamchara Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not prime Floyd or prime Manny.
     
  4. a beast

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    Well Algeri landed on Manny with his lead right so what will Floyd do, and Marquez almost killed him so??? see how dumb this logic is
     
  5. a beast

    a beast Guest

    Well this is not prime Floyd either
     
  6. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pac even when using struggled with boxers. Two pure boxers knocked him out and a southpaw with power crossed his eyes. Doesn't matter of Pac was in his prime, he couldn't beat a prime or the Floyd of today.
     
  7. a beast

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    Thing is threads like this are stupid, both will see a fighter they have never seen before and the best will prevail.
     
  8. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    If Marquez was able to knock Pacs dik in, then wtf do you think Floyd is going to do to Pac. ****en "if" questions?:lol:
     
  9. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    if JMM can outbox and ko pac. Floyd will easily beat pacquiao
     
  10. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    If pac was getting counter shots many times by marquez then what happens when pac face a way better counter puncher mayweather??? This thread is re****ed.
     
  11. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    :good:lol:
     
  12. atigerofold

    atigerofold Active Member Full Member

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    Hofbrau: In his last two fights Floyd has slowed down. All you have to do is slow down a fraction [to be vulnerable] with someone like Pacquiao. Against Maidana he looked ordinary. I think both fights were ordinary. He definitely won, but if someone like Maidana is laying gloves on you then someone like Pacquiao is going to put a hell of a lot more leather down," Justine Fortune said.
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    I tend to agree with you Hofbrau; I thought Maidana was unpredictable (to his own advantage) with his punches, than being just ordinary. Floyd was ordinary, unsettled by Maidana I thought, orchestrating and rounding up the ref at off-beat times. Maidana provided plenty of bamboozlers, to put some doubt onto the old wrinkles on Floyd's forehead. That head of Floyd.... is way, way, way too big. Manny can be cajie and unpredictable too. I hope Manny is able to get close and gives it his all and more. I am sure Manny will have worked out strategies to bring on an upset(Maidana with his unconventional ways, might have shone some light)
     
  13. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather fans need to use some objectivity and understand that Floyd is the epitome of a bottom-feeder when it comes to selecting opponents. He is simply not accustomed to dealing with adversity, especially from opponents who are supposed to have a chance.

    Hatton, Ortiz, Guerrero, and Maidana: Not even good enough to be ranked at the weight.
    Cotto, Mosley, and ODLH: Old/Shot
    Corrales, Castillo, Judah, and Alvarez: 100% unproven when they fought Floyd.
    JMM: This is non-roided JMM, bulked up 2 weight classes by eating twinkies and urine. Not a valid comparison to the one that Manny fought 4 times.
    Baldomir, Mitchell, Gatti, Bruseles, Corley, N'Dou, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Augustus, Gerena, Juuko, Vargas, Rios, Manfredy, G. Hernandez: None of these guys were anything more than halfway decent wins.

    Manny, on the other hand, has had 11 fights with Morales, Barrera, JMM, and Bradley to go along with his many pushovers. Sure, Manny gets hit and Floyd doesn't. But he also knocks people down pretty much every fight, and Floyd doesn't. They fight in totally different ways.

    -Castillo, Judah, ODLH, Cotto, and Maidana were hitting Floyd regularly.
    -Guerrero was finding him with the counter left to the body.
    -Ortiz was finding him when he finally said f*ck it and started swinging.
    -Mosley CLOBBERED him multiple times in the same round.
    -Maidana nearly dropped him by countering his pull counter.

    There is no way a reasonable person could think Pacquiao, who is a vastly superior offensive fighter to all of those guys, won't hit Floyd even more.

    On May 2nd, a lot of you are going to be surprised because the smoke and mirrors will be gone and you'll see Floyd fighting a legitimate, athletic, experienced, awkward, southpaw, elite, great fighter.

    Not a Spanish-speaking pushover...
    Not a barely-lower-top 10 fighter with no good wins at the weight (Hatton, Ortiz, Guerrero, Maidana)...
    Not a fighter who has barely any good wins on his entire resume (Judah, Corrales, Castillo, Alvarez)...
    Not an fat, old, shot, slow fighter (Baldomir, Cotto, Mosley, JMM, ODLH)...

    He's fighting the best fighter he's ever fought, no matter what criteria you use to determine that. And the best you can do is point out that Floyd managed to dominate JMM when he wasn't on roids. :rofl
     
  14. atigerofold

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    KillSomething: Mayweather fans need to use some objectivity and understand that Floyd is the epitome of a bottom-feeder when it comes to selecting opponents. He is simply not accustomed to dealing with adversity, especially from opponents who are supposed to have a chance.
    Hatton, Ortiz, Guerrero, and Maidana: Not even good enough to be ranked at the weight.
    Cotto, Mosley, and ODLH: Old/Shot
    Corrales, Castillo, Judah, and Alvarez: 100% unproven when they fought Floyd.
    JMM: This is non-roided JMM, bulked up 2 weight classes by eating twinkies and urine. Not a valid comparison to the one that Manny fought 4 times.
    Baldomir, Mitchell, Gatti, Bruseles, Corley, N'Dou, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Augustus, Gerena, Juuko, Vargas, Rios, Manfredy, G. Hernandez: None of these guys were anything more than halfway decent wins.
    Manny, on the other hand, has had 11 fights with Morales, Barrera, JMM, and Bradley to go along with his many pushovers. Sure, Manny gets hit and Floyd doesn't. But he also knocks people down pretty much every fight, and Floyd doesn't. They fight in totally different ways.
    -Castillo, Judah, ODLH, Cotto, and Maidana were hitting Floyd regularly.
    -Guerrero was finding him with the counter left to the body.
    -Ortiz was finding him when he finally said f*ck it and started swinging.
    -Mosley CLOBBERED him multiple times in the same round.
    -Maidana nearly dropped him by countering his pull counter.
    There is no way a reasonable person could think Pacquiao, who is a vastly superior offensive fighter to all of those guys, won't hit Floyd even more.
    On May 2nd, a lot of you are going to be surprised because the smoke and mirrors will be gone and you'll see Floyd fighting a legitimate, athletic, experienced, awkward, southpaw, elite, great fighter.
    Not a Spanish-speaking pushover...
    Not a barely-lower-top 10 fighter with no good wins at the weight (Hatton, Ortiz, Guerrero, Maidana)...
    Not a fighter who has barely any good wins on his entire resume (Judah, Corrales, Castillo, Alvarez)...
    Not an fat, old, shot, slow fighter (Baldomir, Cotto, Mosley, JMM, ODLH)...
    He's fighting the best fighter he's ever fought, no matter what criteria you use to determine that. And the best you can do is point out that Floyd managed to dominate JMM when he wasn't on roids.
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    Thanks, a very good diagnosis of the two, KillSomething; so much so - that I will backing Manny heavily.
     
  15. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    ^^Like i said the last time pacquiao fought a fighter that was in his prime and won it clearly is a future hof was against barrera in 2003 which was 12 years ago.