If Maidana can land on Floyd then he'll get more with Pacquiao

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  1. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Killsomething? <<I think my response to you just kill your post lol.
     
  2. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Damn, you didn't even mention Torrecampo, Singsurat, or Hussein.:lol:

    Why can't they get any love? :rofl
     
  3. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you can repost that in proper English and formatted in a way that makes it readable, i'll be happy to read it.

    I got about one sentence in where you committed the logical fallacy of trying to say that Pacquiao not fighting a "great fighter at their primes as a proven true ww" is somehow equivalent to Mayweather fighting a few guys who were barely ranked as welterweights.

    My point was that all of Mayweather's fights were against fighters which he had no realistic chance of losing to.

    Pacquiao has been in a larger amount of fights that had respectable odds, against respectable opposition.

    Nobody disputes this.

    Ultimately, my point was that Mayweather has been hit by many fighters who are less offensively capable than Manny. Therefore, the Justin Fortune quote is reasonable.

    Which Floyd opponent do you think will have done better than Pacquaio after May 2nd?
     
  4. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Your points are stupid because you talk about the fighters mayweather beat werent very good while the fighters pacquiao beat clearly in the last 11 year werent great since none of those 11 years pacquiao beat clearly were great future hof fighters in their primes. There were ppl that thought corrales, castillo, hatton, de la hoya, mosley had a chance to beat mayweather. But if you talk about odds like who was the favorite to win? Well if thats the case then if i recall in the past 11 years pac was the underdog 1 time which was against de la hoya cause dumb ppl forget about how oscar would look by moving down in 147 pounds which ppl only focouse on the size alone.
     
  5. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    If Pac fought Oscar at 154 pounds in stead of at 147 pounds then i see a healthy bigger oscar destroying a way smaller pacquiao. If cotto wasnt weight drain? Man. I dont think pac would beat canelo at 152 pounds cause canelo is way too big.
     
  6. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This isn't a resume argument.

    I'm basically saying Pacquiao is better than the guys Mayweather fought, and will hit him more.

    mayweather is not used to fighting against guys that have even the slightest chance.

    NOBODY thought Guerrero, Ortiz, and Maidana had a chance. At all.

    The ONLY chance anybody gave Alvarez was his size. It had nothing to do with anything he demonstrated in the ring, because he had never fought anybody.

    Nobody seriously thought Cotto or Mosley had a chance, because they were shot and probably wouldn't have had a chance when they were prime.

    Nobody thought JMM could jump up 2 weight classes to win. That's just unreasonable.

    Pacquiao has a chance. That alone is more than Mayweather has ever had to deal with. And do you really think if Maidana (who couldn't touch Devon Alexander) could win 5 rounds off Floyd that Pacquiao can't do better?
     
  7. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    ^^And? If Marquez could give Pac problems and win like 5 rounds vs Pac in the 3rd fight by mostly counter punching at ww (marquez 2nd fight at ww btw) you dont think floyd would do better since floyd is a better boxer and better counter puncher then marquez?
     
  8. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am not going to argue with you because you do not understand boxing.

    Pacquiao will hit Floyd more than Floyd has ever been hit before. How is Floyd going to hit Pacquiao more than Marquez did when Floyd doesn't throw half the punches Marquez throws?

    Understand styles and temperaments before you try to ****yze fights. Floyd doesn't fight anything like Marquez, at all.

    Pacquiao is better than Castillo and Maidana.
    Pacquiao is faster than Castillo and Maidana.
    Pacquiao is more awkward than Castillo and Maidana.
    Pacquiao throws more punches than Castillo and Maidana.

    Pacquiao WILL land more punches than Castillo and Maidana. I'm not saying Floyd won't be landing as well, but Pacquiao isn't going to have a hard time landing.
     
  9. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Guess what? Mayweather is better then Bradley, Marquez

    Mayweather is faster then Bradley, Marquez

    Mayweather is a better defensive fighter then Bradley, Marquez.


    Mayweather will make pacquiao miss alot more and then will counter with cleaner shots at pacquiao then both bradley, marquez did.

    If Marquez and Bradley who both are skillful fighters and good counter punchers mainely Marquez could give pacquiao problems? Imagine what floyd would do to Pacquiao?

    You clearly dont understand boxing at all.
     
  10. Estes

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    Do you think Maidana would have landed on prime Mayweather?/
     
  11. Scar

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    Maidana is a different style, completely different. He's a wild swinger who fights ugly. That style is impossible to completely counter and force to miss especially when you're pinned on the ropes.
     
  12. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What are y'all going to say when Mayweather-Pacquiao looks like Mayweather-Marquez that he still hasn't fought anybody. At least some of you guys still have faith in Manny it won't help but it's good that not all his fan's are scared.
     
  13. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Now this is pure boxing knowledge lol... Pac WILL NOT have a hard time landing on Floyd.:lol:
     
  14. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pac fans have the "Floyd will sit back and pot shot Pac and miss while Pac connects" dream down pat lol. Good. After the shock sets in of how the fight goes with Floyd controlling the action...just don't come up with ANY excuses lol.
     
  15. Typhoon

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    Maidana is one of the greatest boxers of all time, much better than Pacquiao. He's fast, strong as Drago and has a diamond chin. It's a testament to Floyd's out of this world skills that he was able to beat this dude twice. Maidana would KO Pacquiao in 2 rounds, make no mistake.