Muhammad Ali vs Wladimir Kiltschko

Herol, you're still stupid, I see.

You're almost as stupid as dino, but not quite.

Still, that's not a very high bar, is it ?

You babble on about Wlad fights that took place 12 effin' years ago, as if they have any relevance to the question at hand.

The mutthafukka has ruled the division for almost a decade, beating everybody there.

Yes fat boys, no hopers etc, but also the best the division has to offer.


Stupid ?

Yes, stupid.



Ali almost certainly UDs Wlad, winning clearly. Maybe even stops him on cuts (highly unlikely), but he's a difficult puzzle for the great one to solve. Wlad gives Ali more grief and effort than Liston or Foreman.

In fact, with the exception of Frazier and Norton, this would probably be Ali's toughest challenge.


So, lad, take your stupid pills, relax, and quit trolling and wan-king all over your keyboard.

 

Stick to ballet dancing lol you DKSAB do yaatsch

 

Klitschko is too strong, too fast, too smart for Ali. Klitschko KO/TKO win.
Same goes for Lewis and Tyson. Ali probably have chances against Vitali, cause he is not as fast as his brother.

 

:good i think the same way

 

Looking back to how Ali failed miserably with a worse jabber than Wlad in Larry Holmes this matchup doesn't look good for Ali. Wlad takes this one by a couple of points.

 

Ali was completely washed up in the Holmes fight and only took it due to financial troubles. That fight is absolutely not an indicator of anything. Ali beat Foreman who was probably a 10 times more dominant fighter in the division coming to that fight than Wlad ever was.

 

Foreman was merely a crude slugger who only put on his first pair of gloves around 5 years beforehand who fought in that fight like a complete re****. If you want a fair stylewise comparison you need to watch the Ali Norton trilogy and the Holmes fight to gauge just how 'The Greatest' would fair against Waldo.

 

Like I said, if you think the Holmes fight indicates anything at all, you just don't understand this. It's like Mike Tyson losing to Kevin McBride on his last fight - says absolutely nothing about his overall career. You can watch the Foreman vs Frazier to see how easy it was for Foreman to destroy one of the all time greats. He's arguably the most dominant boxer ever lived and even he couldn't handle Ali. Wlad is a good fighter in a mediocre era where there's really no competition since Lewis retired.

 

He couldn't stop glass chinned Haye but he stops Ali who was never stopped in his career??

Hows that?

 

Boring fight; Lyle vs Ali and Wlad Vs Sultan would be barnburners in comparison.

 

Someone needs to break the news to Holmes that he didn't stop Ali. Why don't you tell him.

 

not the one who won gold at Olympics, undisputed hw title, unbeaten title run, instant destruction of atgs and hofers.

you must mean another foreman let me know which you mean. Junior?

 

too fast for ali? he wasn't fast enough to save himself against a retired neverman.

I would pity wlad put in the ring versus ali, because you'd had to have put a gun to his head to get this feaster of midgets and fatboys in with a real athlete, nevermind one of the greatest.

 

Ali was hands down, without a doubt the greatest.

That being said, he would struggle with Wladdy, who is bigger than anyone he ever faced, has power in either fist, a beauty of a left hook (always Ali's bane), is ferocious against non-punchers, and who will not have the stamina problems of George Foreman.

That being said, Ali is Ali, so I say it is a 50/50.