Top 13 h2h heavyweights in history

If you go after the legacy a great fighter, you have to be prepared to deal with their foot soldiers!

Just saying.

 

There definitely is, young fella.

There's no boxer who has held a title or was ranked in the top ten in any weight division this century, that I personally could not have destroyed at some point in their pre-prime.

 

What was your first clue ?

 

:think

You've given me a lot to ponder here, Good Cop.

And left me feeling somewhat guilty.


"...rage, revenge fantasies...and that's just the

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of it."

This bit was particularly jarring in that I've heard, speaking of the tip, that oftentimes, impotent rage can turn to impotence.

These badgering bullies have no consideration for the enduring effects their vile, vindictive victories have on the hapless, helpless, haunted hirelings who are so taunted and tormented by their success in the ring.

Something needs to be done !

 

:yep:good

 

Which I've been a proponent of Janitor. I got a woody reading this, Thank you

 

This certainly wasn't but confirmed what I already knew.

 

This fourm is riddled with exchanges you were unable to complete with me:blabla

 

Yeah, sure.

Weren't you the one who had no idea of the existence or career of Barbados Joe Walcott?

In this very thread you make an absurd contention that there is no such thing as "pre-prime"... Using this informed statement, I drew the conclusion that Joe Choynski must rank higher than Jack Johnson. Both in your initial statement and following silence, it is pretty obvious you haven't the faintest clue about this fight, a watershed moment in the career of one of the sport's greatest combatants.

After seeing many, too many, of your inane posts, it just strikes me that you don't know a lot about boxing or its history. But it's a free world, the uninformed have every bit the right to make their voice heard as those who are informed. But beware, what you reveal to the observer may not be what you intend.

 

I answered that post and the follow up. It was me who was met with your silence. You only came back to join cuchulain stroking the back of some alt who didn't have the sacks to use his own account when writing me up a load of useless day -time drama level drivel.

Enjoy the company you keep:thumbsup

 

Ah, your boxrec ****ysis shines. My apologies.

So, you admit there is something called pre-prime. You are making progress.

And you also think that Johnson only had 7 fights at this time... that's a step backwards.

But, yes, Johnson was pre-prime and it is good of you to admit such a thing exists. And also, judging by the fact that Waldo has gone 8 years of dominating a division, I would say that his prime lies somewhere in those 8 years. Unless you want to contend that boxer's primes are longer than 8 years.

 

I'm no historian and it takes one to know the details of Jack Johnson. I know what i know and thats enough.

Yeah , I want to do that.

Mayweather has a prime of 17 years. He didn't lose to journeymen climbing the ranks. This is why he is a genuine ATG of this era.

Zsolt Erdei had a prime of 10 years. His he an ATG as well:think

Its too convenient to say Wlads prime began when he moved to Germany where he bent the rules in order to beat lesser opponents.

 

These klit****s don't understand wladimir's bum victim list can't change tha fact a 37 years old,untrained fat bum destroyed the prime wladimir in the second round.
Basically the longevity is about the unbeaten and undisputed
champions.Who cares a fighters' longevity who has 3 brutal ko
losses ? Wladimir isn't unbeaten and undisputed champion.
These objective things.What's wrong with an objective thing?

 

Lennox Lewis suffered two one-punch KO's during his reigns as champ, when he was indisputably in his prime, yet most have him in the top 5 heavyweights of all time. How does that work?

Wlad has been the top ranked heavyweight for 8 years straight in the Ring Annual ratings. Only Joe Louis and Ali had better runs. THAT is longevity. That is longevity of a historic proportion.

Again, this contention that a fighter's prime lasts 8 years is ludicrous. It contradicts the very notion of the concept of prime. Johnson and Louis both got KO'd earlier in their careers and made adjustments. It took Waldo a bit longer, but he made his adjustment.

No one is arguing he is a top 5 All Time Heavy, but he certainly has the credentials for top 10. It is objectively undeniable.

 

Living in the past is an unfortunate side effect of the trauma.

Forget about where to rank Wlad all time; victims suffering from this particular side effect are still waiting for the next new episode of Friends and *** and The City to be released.

Just be proud he can use YouTube since Wlad's been unbeaten since before the site launched. Wlad's merciless reign has done a tremendous amount of damage to dino and countless others.

We need to celebrate the small victories, now.