Number of pro fighters today compared with the past

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  1. Bullet

    Bullet Member Full Member

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    That's something I always wanted to known, I found something on boxrec that could give us an answer.

    According with boxrec, there are 19840 pro fighters around the world.


    We have more or less pro fighters today ?


    Now surely some fakes in there, but also boxrec doesn't count as active a guy like Andre Ward, who is inactive for a while but not retired.

    Anyone knows how to search the number of pro fighters active in a random year from the past.. or anyone knows a rough estimate for a random year from the past, surely it's going to be hard as hell but it doesn't need to be too old, would be enough to compare with the 90s for instance.


    Source

    http://boxrec.com/search.php?status=active&cat=boxer&first_name=&last_name=&submit=Go&pageID=2


    992 pages, 20 fighters per page. (it's actually 993 pages but the page 993 has only 1 last fighter)


    Anyway, thought I would share, I found this interesting.
     
  2. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Interesting topic more than most of the threads here, but many drunkards and non entities fought "professionally" now and then.
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    How many guys fighting in the amateurs well into their 20's would formerly have been thrown into the pros at a much earlier age?
     
  4. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've been suspicious that the talent pool is larger now due to global access to boxing.
     
  5. Bullet

    Bullet Member Full Member

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    All of the ones outside of the Communist States I would say.
     
  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Someone added up the fights (though not the # of fighters) in boxrec a while back. I'll post it with a link despite the caveat that boxrec is incomplete and doesn't even have every popular boxers' fights from distant time periods listed let alone the nobodies toiling in obscurity.

    http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101907&start=25

    2012 22265
    2011 22491
    2010 21053
    2009 20902
    2008 20625
    2007 20714
    2006 20087
    2005 19552
    2004 18406
    2003 17113
    2002 17001
    2001 16026
    2000 15071
    1999 15235
    1998 14269
    1997 15067
    1996 14287
    1995 14274
    1994 13766
    1993 14374
    1992 13280
    1991 12703
    1990 13484
    1989 13153
    1988 12362
    1987 11690
    1986 11350
    1985 12741
    1984 12581
    1983 14547
    1982 15211
    1981 14040
    1980 12538
    1979 11950
    1978 10596
    1977 10975
    1976 8919
    1975 9372
    1974 9224
    1973 10245
    1972 10379
    1971 11222
    1970 11124
    1969 9864
    1968 9815
    1967 9623
    1966 9710
    1965 9415
    1964 9675
    1963 10271
    1962 11302
    1961 11764
    1960 12215
    1959 12303
    1958 13091
    1957 12913
    1956 13447
    1955 14461
    1954 15711
    1953 16032
    1952 16792
    1951 17739
    1950 19820
    1949 22613
    1948 25695
    1947 30488
    1946 30936
    1945 17185
    1944 15660
    1943 12702
    1942 12350
    1941 12914
    1940 15891
    1939 17134
    1938 19047
    1937 24517
    1936 20433
    1935 23767
    1934 26667
    1933 28997
    1932 30914
    1931 35794
    1930 36138
    1929 33654
    1928 32337
    1927 28389
    1926 24307
    1925 22900
    1924 24305
    1923 23669
    1922 22859
    1921 19362
    1920 17662
    1919 12351
    1918 6311
    1917 9055
    1916 10463
    1915 9223
    1914 8145
    1913 8106
    1912 8598
    1911 8430
    1910 7129
    1909 5552
    1908 4465
    1907 3807
    1906 3862
    1905 3642
    1904 3211
    1903 3087
    1902 3281
    1901 1858
    1900 3817
     
  7. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With a world population that has doubled since the 60s, and so many more countries allowing pro boxing since the Iron Curtain came down... it's difficult not to conclude, that the talent pool has been growing ever larger over the last 50 years. Which seems to be backed up by the numbers posted by Ovid.
     
  8. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    This cannot be right. I think more fights are recorded today. I'm sure Peter Wilson wrote some data in the 1950s showing a drop off in numbers from the 1920s and 1930s with the closure of small halls after TV. In the 1920s nearly all young men could take a fight in what today would be smokers for some loose change. Fight clubs in every town back then. Extra circuits for all levels of ability. A modest living could be made for most small timers. boxing was a job, not just a part time thing it is for 97% of participants now.
     
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Interesting how in 1930 you had the highest number ever at 36138, presumably because the depression and a lot of people out of work.. Then the number drops to less than half of that by 1940 at 15891 possibly due to guys being shipped off to war. Also the numbers seem to extremely low in the 1960's and 70's. For the US this might be justifiable due to vietnam as well as an increasingly larger number of people going to college, but If these numbers reflect a world wide census of boxers, then I wonder what was going on in the rest of the world to drive these figures down.
     
  10. Bullet

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    You're not talking about the whole world though, one single country doesn't make that much of a difference. Mexico, who has a huge population and is a big player in modern boxing was not before the 60s.
     
  11. Bullet

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    Taking into consideration how much more active fighters were back then during the year, the number of fights tell me that as well.
    Depending of the place and time we're talking about the population not only doubled, it has tripled.
    I tend to think also that the facilities in communications, you know, how easy it is today to spread things and such make any sport more accessible than it was in a time where you only could watch 1 fight a year or something if you weren't from USA.
     
  12. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    There were more in the 30's.
     
  13. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    higher quanity lower quality in my opinion
     
  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    No one cares about the 2-10 scrub breadline fighters. Today's fighters are more professional, cream of the crop type.
     
  15. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1960's to 1970's were the lowest, who would think those numbers were also low pre-1920, makes you wonder