no way was robert helinius 226 lbs...

Wilder's fighting Szpilka, another Hayamn fighter, then he's gonna do his best to up the ante Hyrnov offered, in that 10+ million or he takes an easier fight vs Browne/Chagaev winner.

Seems the WBC is keen on their titlists actually unifying, and Wilder will be no exception.
They only want the VERY best holding their title, ie GGG, Kovalev, Pacqioua, and Klitschko.

If Wilder doesnt get 7 figures+ to fight Potvetkin, he'll get a money fight vs Browne/Chaggy winner, fulfilling his mandate, then fight whichever WBA nobodies he can until Potvetkin's mgr comes up with the $$$$ to satisfy Wilder's lifetime financial needs. :think

 

I think Helenius vs Wilder would come down to footspeed. Bob would not be able to cut the ring and Wilder would control the fight with his superior jab. Wilder has better power too. The only thing Helenius has on Wilder is his chin.

 

Helenius is a poor man's Klitschko like Fury but I think he easily destroys Wilder. Inactive or not, he was ranked top ten in the world not too long ago. He's got as good a record as any heavyweight not named Klitschko: Brewster, Peter, Liakhovich, Chisora.

Helenius is actually the more experienced fighter compared to Wilder because he had 120 more amateur bouts. Wilder's form and technique still look like **** as he just tries to load up on people and swing, trusting in his power to win the day each time.

In a head to head match I'd have to favor Helenius.

 

Arreola's weight for Harper fight was also wrong. It was 208 in stead of 262 pounds.

 

Wilder KOs Helenius

 

That's ridiculous. I don't know where fighters get the ***** to ask for that kind of money for one fight. There are only three fighters in the world who can command a ten million dollar purse Mayweather, Pacquiao, and Klitschko and they've all been dominant pound for pound champions for a decade. Roman Gonzalez is 42 and O, 12 title fights and he's never made one million dollar payday. Guillermo Rigondeaux undefeated 9 title fights, 3 Olympic gold medals, career best earnings of $750,000. Golovkin got 400k for Stevens, 750k for Geale. Didn't Kovalev fight Bernard Hopkins for 500k? If anybody deserves that kind of money it's these warriors, not Deontay Wilder.

I can see him demanding that kind of fee if he beat Wladimir Klitschko, but so far he's only beat Bermaine Stiverne.

 

looked atleast 240

 

At least 226½ :bart

 

Wow, are you off on your figures.

GGG and Kovalev both get no less than 1 mil/fight from HBO alone, plus venue $$$s.

Hyrnov offered Wilder a 75% split of 10 mil from what Ive read.

If he ups it to 15 mil, Wilder will probably cash out.

Most likely though, he defends against Szpilka for a mil, he unifies with Chaggy/Browne for a few mil, then fights Haye for 10 mil, that is unless Vlad Hyrnov ups the offer. :think

 

You can't unify regular belts with official belts.

Only the champ(Wlad WBA) can do that. While the regular gets a 25% split of the purse.

 

These are the numbers commonly reported on the internet.

Gennady Golovkin
900,000 Rubio
750,000 Geale
400,000 Stevens
350,000 Macklin
350,000 Rosado


Kovalev
3.24 mil Pascal
500,000 Hopkins

There were a couple of articles about how after taxes and paying his manager and trainer Kovalev only took home 125k of his Hopkins purse. Then there was that scene article where Kovalev mentions that he didn't get paid for his first 17 fights and on his 18th fight he made 5 grand. Hopkins was his 26th fight and he was fighting for peanuts before that.

 

Nobody in today's HW division KO's Helenius in his today physical condition which has dramatically improved from Sauerland days. Helenius is fundamentally good boxer and has good chin and it has been tested. Only thing Wilder has on Helenius is faster legs. Helenius is bigger and stronger. Wilder might be able to outpoint Helenius, but that we won't know until they face each other, if they ever will.

*edit* Helenius's weigh-in was 110kg

 

No, he was not 226lbs. I remember reading somewhere that the Estonians announced his weight wrong. I believe he weighed 246.

 

Because fat weights less than muscle mass, per volume. That's why Wilder looks thinner than him, he lacks all the fat Helenius is carring.

 

Thats correct weight.