Gary Russell Jr vs Vasyl Hobochenko - please stop revisionist history

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  1. Russian_Glass

    Russian_Glass Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've seen an alarming number of people recently claim that Loma "schooled", "dominated", "destroyed", "humiliated", "12-0'd", etc. Garry Russell Jr.

    What happened to the objective boxing fans? You might not like GRJ, but there is no reason to twist the facts to suit your agenda. Loma won, but in no way, shape or form was Russell "Lacy'd" in that fight.

    Loma won a Majority Decision against Rusell. A.majority.decision.is.not.schooling. Let's take a look at how various boxing experts scored the fight:

    Official scores: 116-112, 116-112, 114-114
    THE RING: 115-113 for Loma
    Associated Press: 118-110 for Loma
    Steve Kim: 117-112 for Loma

    A clear victory? Sure. A Calzaghe vs. Lacy type of schooling? Not even close.
     
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  2. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Keep crying lad
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    I just rewatched it today it was a schooling of the highest order a complete shutout by Vasyl:deal
     
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  4. fruitpunch

    fruitpunch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :patsch

    I think Lomachenko is overrated as hell but he dominated Russell
     
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  5. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    He dominated him. Loma is overrated.
     
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  6. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Yeah, and I guess those draw cards for Canelo and Maidana were also legit lol...

    I actually had it fairly close at the time, but upon multiple viewings it really was a schooling, nothing Gary was doing was effective he could barely land any punches. The rounds Gary could have been awareded were basically just given away by Loma due to inactivity.
     
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  7. Russian_Glass

    Russian_Glass Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nobody's crying, lad.
     
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  8. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd like a rematch. Still favor Loma but Russell is looking great.
     
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  9. cereal monotony

    cereal monotony Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    yeah, it was a competitive fight. Russell took most of the eraly rounds and loma swept the last 4...for some reason, it's now been revised to a domination by loma. it wasn't close to a domination...after watching it again, i had it a draw, same as one of the judges...

    The thing with this fight is:
    - Not sure what was up with the weight, but loma looked much bigger than GRJ...at the time i was thinking loma had rehydrated up to a 10 lb weight advantage...but, after GRJ-gonzalez, i think kmaybe GRJ is just a very small fw, because Gonzalez looked much bigger than him too.

    - GRJ came in the fight dehydrated...and it showed in the last 4 rounds where he seemed to fade badly. But it was in the fight the whole way and made it competitive to the end.

    GRJ is absolutely brilliiant. A legit threat to anyone at 125 with superstar potential written all over him. I think he beats loma now, assuming no problem with GRJ's conditioning.
     
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  10. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    i dont usually like compubox bs statistics but Gary´s 10% connect average and him being woblled several times, paints the picture.
    He won a few rounds here and there but he got beat up.
     
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  11. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    It could be an interesting rivarly :think
     
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  12. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather won Majority Decision vs Canelo too
     
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  13. Magges

    Magges Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The irony is quite strong in this thread.
     
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  14. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Russel just flat out lost, no excuses.

    If you want to become a complete elite boxer though, you can't let the thought of there being another man stronger then you. Boxing is mental as much as it is physical.

    This is why Russell was able to come out last night and do what he did.
     
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  15. Russian_Glass

    Russian_Glass Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All good points. I imagine that most people saying that Loma 12-0'd Russell either watched ****py 120p streams or are blinded by their manlove towards Robochenko.
     
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