Why doesn't Lennox have universal approval ?

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Bomber,

    Lewis only received 9 mill for the Tucker fight because King put in a whopping 12 million to win the purse bids of which Lewis was getting 75%.

    This goes back to King doing everything he could to stop Lewis-Bowe from happening so he could make Lewis- Tucker.

    Why didn't Lewis take the extra 800 large to fight Bowe for the undisputed title instead of washed up Tucker?
    Clear duck.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, he exposed him by losing. :lol:

    You klitschko fans are a bunch of clowns and worse you don't even know the rules of sport.

    Vitali exposed Lewis much the same was a Cooper exposed Ali, with a TKO loss on cuts.
     
  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    And? It's what King was willing to pay and Lewis made $8 million in his next fight with Bruno, was king inflating the value of the fight there as well?. We can second guess and pick apart anything to suit a certain point, but facts are facts, Lewis was making more or as much at the time of these 2 offers.

    Lewis didn't take the extra $850,000 becuase he knew he'd have more leverage once he had the title, which proved to be true when Newman upped the offer by $2 million after he beat Tucker. What would anyone do, take a little extra cash now or get paid even more a few months later while making a similar amount in an easier task in the interim. Only an idiot would have taken the extra $850K.

    Boxing is a business why would anyone, Bowe included, under price themselves when they know they can definitely get more.

    When they did sign to fight in spring 95, Bowe was offered $13 million which is a whole lot more than the $1.25 million Bowe made against Mathis Jr. Lewis gets a fight worth $9.15 million, Bowe offers him $850K more. Bowe loses title gets paid $1.25 million and Lewis offers him $11.75 million more. The disparity is huge when you look at it like that. Numbers do not lie, Lewis always wanted the fight more than Bowe.
     
  4. CONSTAR

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    Cooper didn't expose ali he just almost got lucky

    I'm not a klitschko fan per se

    I know the rules of the sport very well which is why I know it should have gone to the scorecards

    You do not want to debate this with me you will get crushed in this argument

    Tko6 was never legitimate
     
  5. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let the debate begin. I'm stating categorically that this was a legit win, as is apparently the judges, the ref, the commission and since Vitali never contested the outcome, his camp too.

    So let's here your argument against all of this. :lol:
     
  6. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the record books say different
     
  7. CONSTAR

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    I've already exposed this in other threads

    Lummox thumbed vitali at the start of round 3

    He then rubs his hairline into the cut to deepen it

    Both of these tactics are illegal

    As a punch did not cause the damage it cannot be ruled a TKO

    Therefore it should have gone to the scorecards

    And vitali should have won

    Game. Set. Match.
     
  8. McGrain

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    Except for this: absolutely nobody will take you seriously. This was debated for years upon years before you joined. Some of the **** widow_maker and those boys went through was insane. Video evidence. First hand accounts painstakingly explored. Sequences of film captured frame by frame and presented in timecode.

    Your post is an embarrassment compared to all that. You have won "game set and match" in your own mind, but almost nobody agrees with you.

    That's a monumental fail to most people, but I suspect that your own opinion is the only one that matters to you.
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fine except that the ref ruled that it was caused by a punch and the replay's clearly show the same. As for the dreadlocks adding to the cut, did Lewis also have razors imbedded into his hair as well?

    I had thought most of the extremely delusional fans, like yourself, had long ago checked themselves into the psych ward by now.

    What are you out on a week pass or something?
     
  10. CONSTAR

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    It's clear to see in the video the Lewis thumbs him so the case is closed anyone who disagrees is blind or has an agenda

    "Lennox Lewis knows I beat him" - Vitali Klitschko
     
  11. McGrain

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    Which is abotu as valid as saying that it's clear to see on the video that he doesn't thumb him, so the case is closed and anyone who disagrees is blind or has an agenda.

    In other words - you have proved absolutely nothing.
     
  12. CONSTAR

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    So you don't see the thumb catch the eye ???

    Go to specsavers

    The video proves me right

    Your statements are nonsense
     
  13. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought you said you knew the rules of boxing?

    If you did, you'd know that it really doesn't matter if Lewis admitted he thumbed Vitali because all that matters is what the ref rules.

    And the ref ruled that the cut was caused by a legitimate punch.

    Once that ruling is made what really happened is basically immaterial.

    This happens all the time, when a fighter is down due to a trip or someone stepping on his foot, and the ref rules it a knockdown.
    The knockdown stands, even if instant replay shows it wasn't a legit knockdown.

    Hell in the lewis - Tyson fight the ref ruled Tyson was down once when instant reply showed his knee never touched the ground. Other times I've seen a ref rule a knock down when instant replay shows the gloves never touched the ground. Happens all the time. Why? Because ref's are human and things happen in a split second.

    Ref's are human and occasionally make errors, but the thinking is that they don't error too often and in the end the they probably balance out.

    But in this case, none of that happened, because the cut was caused by a legitimate punch. So when that happens, it's a TKO win if the other fighter can't continue.
     
  14. dinovelvet

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    All this suggests Lewis fought Tucker instead of Bowe.

    Boxing is a business is the go-to phrase when somebody is quacking it.

    Boxing is about the glory and fighting the best to prove your the best as well.
    If Lewis thought he was the best he would have went in and took Bowes titles off him . Then he makes the big money and calls the shots.

    Bowe beat the man who beat the man . Lewis went and fought old , washed up , druggie Tucker for a vacant paper belt. That appears to be duck to me.
     
  15. McGrain

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    Whoa - we've gone from "thumbed" to "caught the eye" in the space of a page. Which is it?

    Anyway, show it to me. Show me a gif, picture, produce the video and tell us the timecode instead of just these weird repititions of "fact".