How Jimmy Young Exposed the Greatest

Everyone knew that Ali was boxings golden god.If you were going to take the title at that time you were going to have to beat the **** out of Ali. Fair? No but thats the way it was. To be honest Young fought an ugly non pleasing style that cost him more than one victory. Against another fighter he may have one the title...not Ali.

 

Spinks went for it ,Young did not. I wouldn't pay two bob to watch him stink out a joint.

 

Exactly.:good

Jimmy Young, leaning into the press section to avoid Ali's punches.

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Can you imagine if a fighter repeatedly did that in a Pacquiao or Mayweather fight today ... and the fighter leaning out of the ring expected the decision?

 

Very messy fight. On his own admission,Muhammad was terrible that night - His worst ever performance up to that point in time.

On my scorecard Jimmy lost the fight by dropping points in the standing count he took leaning out of the ring. A draw would indeed have been a fair,albeit inconclusive,verdict.

 

If Ali had felt at all threatened by Young, all he'd have had to do is lift Young's foot up with his own and watch him tumble out of the ring.

 

Can a 34-year old who comes to the ring in his career worst shape be said to be exposed in a dull, close fight? No matter who you think won it? If that's the case, which fighter hasn't been exposed?

This might be the most overrated performance in the history of boxing. I'd rate all Norton's three performances against Ali way above this one not to mention Frazier's. I'd also rate Doug Jones's performance higher.

 

Young won that fight. You don't have to go all out and take it. You don't have to have the aggressive style that seems most fans like best. You just have to rank up enough points to win. If that's done with clever defense and counterpunching ability, fine. Or with a nonstop aggressive assault, fine. Jimmy Young was robbed that night and it's a shame. He was a class boxer and a class guy.

 

Clearly you did have to go all out to take it, because he didn't win. Spinks, on the other hand, went for it and did win.

People always talk about Young's great defense. His "great" defense in this fight was literally exiting the ring. You don't get to call "time out" when your opponent starts to open up on you and then claim to have a great defense.

He's lucky Ali was a sportsman that night and didn't continue to punch while he was hanging half his body outside the ring to avoid punches.

If someone did that today, fans would tear the fighter apart on social media (and justifiably so). They wouldn't be going on about his "great" defense.

 

Very true.

Young has become ludicrously overrated. Like he was some effing HW version of Loche or Benitez. A guy who had to lean out through the ropes to escape the "terrifying" attack of that horrible version of Ali. Might as well hail ****ey as Louis multiplied with Tyson for what he did to an old Young.

Give me Folley over Young every day of the week.

 

Who was Lotierzo in the boxing ? A great trainer or fighter ?
Seemingly this guy's confidence is endless.

 

Good post!:good

 

Good post!:good

 

The two times I've scored this one, I had Young winning by a point. If you have him winning by more I have no problem with that since there were many close rounds. For the same reason I can also see why someone would have Ali winning by a close margin.

But I view it more like Young didn't take full advantage of a fortuitous situation than some fantastic performance, even though he showed some nice moves. Because Ali was in an almost shocking state considering he was defending the richest prize in sport against one of the top contenders. I mean people go on and on about Tyson's supposed poor shape against Douglas, but Ali was ten years older than that Tyson and 10 lbs more over his best weight at the time.

But where Douglas beat a young Tyson from pillar to post before stopping him, Young didn't really manage more than make an old, half-assed Ali look clumsy and lethargic. Just to put things into perspective.

 

No, again, you don't have to go all out and "take it" from the champ. Boxing matches are scored on points per rd. Many titles were one by guys who didn't just let it all hang out, but rather with smart boxing. And his sticking himself out the ropes was not the great defense I was referring to. It was the way he made Ali miss with almost everything he threw. And he wasn't missing from being out of shape, an inshape Young did that to just about everyone.

 

i agree with bokaj's take on this.As i said earlier, it seems over time some want to make this out to be some kind of pure boxing masterpiece, but it wasn't close to that.

Young could have been DQ'd for putting himself through the ropes btw.