General fitness: Which atheletes are better conditioned than top boxers?

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  1. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    I made that exact same post, but deleted it in favour of saying tennis again

    Rugby League players especially have to have such a diverse combination of high fitness requirements
     
  2. Serge

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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I remember hearing about this years ago.

    Austrian skiier Hermann Maier, the Superstars runner-up in 2000, emerged to win three events and capture the 2001 Superstars championship. The first five events saw five different winners. Maier won the bike race over fellow alpine skiier and Olympic champion, Italy's Alberto Tomba. Tampa Bay Buccaneer defensive back Ronde Barber won the half mile. Controversy arrived during the half mile race as Maier finished second ahead of Tomba. However, Maier had run off the path of the road course in mid-race to pass another competitor. Tomba protested and the decision was to flip-flop the second and third place finishers. Chicago Bear linebacker Brian Urlacher lifted 300 pounds to win the weight lifting. Bowling returned for the first time since 1990 and Heismann Trophy winner Chris Weinke defeated the Phoenix Suns' Dan Majerle. San Francisco 49er wide receiver Terrell Owens defeated Urlacher in the final of the basketball competition. Maier started to take command of the competition with a kayaking win over Tomba. Then Ronde Barber surpised Tomba to win the swimming in record time, breaking a record Tomba had set in the preliminaries. Maier won the Sea Doo race, as Tomba was eliminated in the quarterfinals with a penalty for missing the last bouy. Terrell Owens won the 100 yard dash in a record time of 9.02 seconds. Owens time appears questionable. It translates to about a 9.85 100 meter dash, which would place him among the fastest men of all time. This done on sand in sneakers. Tiki Barber got a very quick start, evidently jumping the gun. The on-screen timer, clicked all the way up to 9.09, before stopping at 9.02 a full yard before Owens crossed the finish line. Ronde Barber won the obstacle course, but Hermann Maier's second place finish was more than enough for him to capture the Superstars championship.

    Montego Bay, Jamaica

    Air Date: May 27, 2001

    Announcers: Brent Musburger and Lynn Swann.

    PLC. NAME, SPORT
    BIKE

    HALF

    WL

    BOWL

    BKST

    KAYAK

    SWIM

    SEA-DOO

    100

    OC

    TOTAL

    MONEY

    1. Hermann Maier, Alping Skiing
    10

    4

    -

    1

    -

    10

    4

    10

    -

    7

    49

    N/A

    2. Ronde Barber, Football
    1

    10

    1

    -

    -

    -

    10

    4

    4

    10

    40

    N/A

    3. Alberto Tomba, Alping Skiing
    7

    7

    -

    -

    -

    7

    7

    0

    1

    2

    31

    N/A

    4. Terrell Owens, Football
    -

    0

    3

    0

    10

    -

    -

    2

    10

    4

    29

    N/A

    5. Dan Majerle, Basketball
    2

    0

    -

    7

    -

    4

    1/2

    7

    -

    0

    20 1/2

    N/A

    6. Brian Urlacher, Football
    0

    -

    10

    0

    7

    1

    -

    -

    2

    0

    20

    N/A

    7. Chris Weinke, Football
    4

    0

    -

    10

    0

    2

    1/2

    -

    -

    -

    16 1/2

    N/A

    8. Tiki Barber, Football
    0

    2

    -

    2

    -

    0

    2

    -

    7

    1

    14

    N/A

    9. Ray Lewis, Football
    0

    1

    7

    0

    1

    -

    -

    1

    -

    0

    10

    N/A

    10. Jessie Armstead, Football
    0

    -

    3

    0

    4

    -

    -

    -

    0

    -

    7

    N/A

    11. Shane Mosley, Boxing
    0

    0

    -

    4

    2

    0

    -

    0

    -

    -

    6

    N/A

    12. Lenny Krayzelburg, Swimming
    0

    0

    -

    0

    0

    0

    -

    0

    -

    -

    0

    N/A


    Austrian Hermann Maier, the first skiier to win Superstars


    2000 runner-up Maier took the early lead with a 15 second win on the bikes.


    Tampa Bay Buccaneer Ronde Barber won a swift half mile run.


    Chicago Bear linebacker Brian Urlacher hoisted 300 pounds in weight lifting.


    Heismann winner Chris Weinke was best in the bowling.


    Terrell Owens downed Urlacher in the basketball.


    Maier, far right, celebrates kayaking victory over Albert Tomba, Dan Majerle (green boat) is off to sea.


    Ronde Barber scores a Superstars record in the swimming event.


    Maier took a commanding lead by winning the Sea-Doo race.


    Owens beat the Barber brothers to win the 100 yard dash in Superstars record time.


    Ronde Barber got the best of Maier in the obstacle course to take second overall.

    INDIVIDUAL EVENT RESULTS

    BIKE RACE - one and a half miles

    1. Hermann Maier
    2:46

    2. Alberto Tomba
    3:03

    3. Chris Weinke
    3:16

    4. Dan Majerle
    3:18

    5. Ronde Barber
    3:20

    6. Lenny Krayzelburg
    N/A

    7. Ray Lewis
    N/A

    8. Tiki Barber
    N/A

    Shane Mosley
    N/A

    Jessie Armstead
    N/A

    Brian Urlacher
    dnf


    HALF MILE RUN

    1. Tiki Barber
    2:09

    *2. Alberto Tomba
    2:14

    *3. Hermann Maier
    2:12

    4. Tiki Barber
    2:18

    5. Ray Lewis
    2:20

    Dan Majerle
    N/A

    Chris Weinke
    N/A

    Lenny Krayzelburg
    N/A

    Shane Mosley
    N/A

    Terrell Ownes
    N/A


    *second and third places reversed following protest by Tomba, claiming Maier had run off course.

    WEIGHT LIFTING

    1. Brian Urlacher
    300

    2. Ray Lewis
    280

    3. Jessie Armstead
    260

    3. Terrell Owens
    260

    5. Ronde Barber
    200


    BOWLING - qualifying

    1. Dan Majerle
    143

    2. Shane Mosley
    129

    3. Chris Weinke
    121

    4. Tiki Barber
    113

    5. Hermann Maier
    112

    Lenny Krayzelburg
    N/A

    Ray Lewis
    N/A

    Jessie Armstead
    N/A

    Terrell Owens
    N/A


    BOWLING - two frame playoffs

    Chris Weinke def. Shane Mosley
    28-23

    Chris Weinke def. Dan Majerle
    40-26


    BASKETBALL - qualifying

    1. Brian Urlacher
    23

    2. Terrell Owens
    20

    3. Jessie Armstead
    16

    4. Shane Mosley
    15

    5. Ray Lewis
    10

    6. Chris Weinke
    7

    7. Lenny Krayzelburg
    2

    BASKETBALL - semifinals

    Terrell Owens def. Jessie Armstead
    23-6

    Brian Urlacher def. Shane Mosley
    21-16

    BASKETBALL - final

    Terrell Owens def. Brian Urlacher
    20-16


    KAYAKING (40 yards)

    1. Hermann Maier
    34.31

    35.78

    2. Alberto Tomba
    37.71

    N/A

    3. Dan Majerle
    38.65

    N/A

    4. Chris Weinke
    38.93

    5. Brian Urlacher
    40.49

    6. Shane Mosley
    40.50

    7. Lenny Krayzelburg
    46.78

    8. Tiki Barber
    dnf

    SWIMMING (75 yards)

    1. Ronde Barber
    N/A

    33.91 r

    2. Alberto Tomba
    34.44 r

    N/A

    3. Hermann Maier
    N/A

    N/A

    4. Tiki Barber
    N/A

    5. Dan Majerle
    N/A

    5. Chris Weinke
    N/A

    SEA-DOO

    1. Hermann Maier
    10

    2. Dan Majerle
    7

    3. Ronde Barber
    4

    4. Terrell Owens
    2

    5. Ray Lewis
    1

    Alberto Tomba
    0

    Lenny Krayzelburg
    0

    Shane Mosley
    0

    Ronde Barber def. Alberto Tomba
    Dan Majerle def. Lenny Krayzelburg
    Terrell Owens def. Ray Lewis
    Hermann Maier def. Shane Mosley
    Dan Majerle def. Ronde Barber
    Hermann Maier def. Terrell Owens
    Hermann Maier def. Dan Majerle
    100 YARD DASH

    1. Terrell Owens
    9.02

    2. Tiki Barber
    9.14

    3. Ronde Barber
    9.72

    4. Brian Urlacher
    10.08

    5. Alberto Tomba
    10.96

    6. Jessie Armstead
    N/A

    OBSTACLE COURSE

    1. Ronde Barber
    25.13


    25.13

    2. Hermann Maier
    25.38


    25.38

    3. Terrell Owens
    26.10

    26.10

    4. Alberto Tomba
    26.26

    26.26

    5. Tiki Barber
    27.09

    27.09

    6. Ray Lewis
    27.62

    27.62

    7. Brian Urlacher
    29.62

    29.62

    8. Dan Majerle
    40.53

    TR+WH+HB
    55.53


    e = estimated time

    r = Superstars record

    N/A = result not available

    dnf - did not finish

    nm - no mark

    http://www.thesuperstars.org/comp/01final.html
     
  4. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Far too complicated different areas are worked more in different sports. Steve Collins jr gave a good interview about comparing rugby to boxing and he said the hits were harder in rugby and it was a grand transition taking the shots but the fitness was unreal and it took him ages to get used to.
     
  5. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did you see the toughest trade , jackie tyrell went out to the baseball they said his hand eye coordination was the best they ever seen
     
  6. oldtimer

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    I dont know what kind of international rugby you are watching but amongst the more recognized test playing nations there are very few fatboys left. You might get the odd prop who comes on as an impact player towards the end of a game who gets selected just to throw his weight around in the scrum but for the most part they have to be capable of withstanding 90 mins of pretty intense activity.
     
  7. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My mother put me in it, she was concerned that I was too overly sports centered, (track and field, boxing, judo), I was a miserable failure and hate chess to this very day :patsch
     
  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    lol

    It's an amazing game. Best to play against people of similar ability or not light years better than oneself though. The guy I used to play with (Gary) was from Baku, Azerbaijan and he'd been playing since he was a young boy. We were of similar ability so it never got too frustrating for either of us.
     
  9. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    I'd love to play with Kosteniuk
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I'd like to shoot a pawn video with her. :deal
     
  11. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing

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    In a Pawn shop? :p
     
  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Lol It could be done. I'm not bothered where we do it. It could be in a dark dingy castle for all I care. Just as long as I get to spend the knight mating with her in a pawn vid, I'll be more than satisfied.
     
  13. Mac mand

    Mac mand Guest

    http://youtu.be/YFP5wevJJwg

    Some serious big hits in rugby league.
    A boxers body wouldn't hold up,some of the hits are nearly equivalent to car crashes.
    A few have tried,never known one make it
     
  14. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Horrible copy-paste skills
     
  15. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    rugby players bodies don't hold up either. met several ex rugger players, just ams, and they are often so ruined they can barely walk in the 60s.