Has Stephen Smith found his level?

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  1. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    Dave with respect to Ronnie he would get hurt and hurt badly if he ever boxed Stephen Smith, I can't see were your getting he'd stop Stephen he's only stopped journeymen, he's not stopped Hughes,Walsh,James or Evans and none of them are as good has Smith.
    Honestly you must see thing nobody else does
     
  2. Daviddee1983

    Daviddee1983 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You keep saying this about hurt bad Billy no one has managed that in way over 100 fight Kickboxing, Am Boxing and Pro. I have seen him in with guys 10kg heavier than him and he's never even been wobbled so don't get where you get that from. Smith is the most over rated boxer in the UK is he good yes. He got the rub of the green in both fights against Simpson and was destroyed against Selby. He's small at Super Feather and has looked average in his last few fights. He beat Buckland but we have seen Buckland struggle in fights and he also struggled with the weight. Technically Smith is good when on the Front foot like Paul a bit as soon as he steps backwards and receives pressure he doesn't like it. As for Ronnie not stopping anyone.. Walsh was badly hurt tried to meet Ronnie toe to toe got hurt then ran and tried to out score him. Hughes was over 4 rounds and he had him rocked in one of the rounds. Evans was punched all over the ring and was down with a body shot that wasn't counted. James was hurt in the last few rounds. These are all fighters who have never been wobbled in ANY other fight. He has hurt them all thats where he has the power to change fights and you know that Billy.. Barrington Brown was hurting Smith and won 3 of the 4 rounds that I seen. If we assume the other 2 were Smith then it should of been a draw.. There was also in my opinion a knockdown. If Smith couldn't handle the pressure from brown who no disrespect has bad hands. He would of been on big trouble against Ronnie. Super Featherweight Division is wide open. Best in Britain is Liam Walsh followed by Stephen Smith and then a few of the others. Billy if Ronnie doesn't hit hard why don't fighters trade with him? All these fighyers named are normally quite aggressive by style none were aggressive against Ronnie.
     
  3. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    John v Ronnie at SFW not john natural weight but he'd stop Ronnie, easy fight to make same promoters
     
  4. Daviddee1983

    Daviddee1983 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fights been offered Billy boy and refused.. John couldn't stop Ronnie with you sitting on top of Ronnie stopping him moving and your a big laddie Billy boy
     
  5. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    Well I will bet you £1,000 for yorkhill hospital John beats Ronnie
     
  6. Daviddee1983

    Daviddee1983 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Billy don't get smart with that bet don't try and goad me to bet with something personal it won't end well. Wouldn't bet on that matter for anything. You keep talking for other boxers try keeping your trap shut. Simpson wants to fight at Feather they don't want to be fighting Ronnie. I'm sure Davie and Tommy would take that fight in a heartbeat. Also I know Ronnie would take it.
     
  7. Stevie 79

    Stevie 79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your over estimation of your brother astounds me , if he was as good as you think he is his promoter would be getting him far better fights than polish coal miners on shows in aberdoom ballroom , your brothers an ex kickboxer / smallhall show stay busy type fighter with all the makings of becoming a gatekeeper for boys progressing onto they big british title fights with a view to becoming a good busy journeyman for wages imo
     
  8. Daviddee1983

    Daviddee1983 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Time will tell. He's that bad all these prospects refuse to fight him in Scotland. He is willing to travel to fight as he loves it always had maybe that's his downfall in someways. He could of stayed safe but he's not made that way. He's been very unlucky at British level and if he gets a fair crack of the whip he will do well.
     
  9. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    Well put money were your big trap is, you think for whatever reason smith gets ko'd by Ronnie, how you've made that assumption well only you know that, tell you what put a poll up and see what the general consensus is, Simpson has had more title fights than what Ronnie has had fights
     
  10. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    The grass must be good up there this week
     
  11. Daviddee1983

    Daviddee1983 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Billy do you a fair deal you fat idiot. I fight you in a Charity boxing match each of us put in £1000 winner get the money to put to a Charity of our choice. I'm sure Davie Will be happy to hold both the money. I wouldn't have anyone fighting for a charity especially one so close to us but I will do it myself. I want the money upfront because in honesty I don't trust you. I will get the show either here in Dundee or down there in Glasgow. I'm giving away easily 20- 30 kg. Come on Billy you gonna step up don't have any promoter excuse here?? John Simpson was offered Ronnie his team said no. Firstly I said on Smiths performance v Brown I think Ronnie would have. There is a lot of factors. I don't think Ronnie will stop Simpson just know for a fact that John or Smith couldn't stop Ronnie. I know one thing for certain I will stop you and I reckon it would be in the first round as soon as you can't use your mouth to spout your pish
     
  12. TERRYTIBBS

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    calm down ffs
     
  13. Daviddee1983

    Daviddee1983 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You don't know the full situation. He's using a personal matter because he isn't winning an argument. It's all opinions and most of it I take as banter but there's a few things I wont. Billy knows what he's done that's why he said Yorkhill Children's Hospital. He could now back up that big mouth of his
     
  14. Stevie 79

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    Your always on here making out as if your brother is the GGG of the super feathers , hes beat nobody with a pulse , big deal hes beat a few polish dishwashers and michael stupart , get a grip man ffs
     
  15. Daviddee1983

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    Stevie who even are you? Bet you have never seen Ronnie fight. I have never compared Ronnie to GGG he's more like Kovalev. You obviously do not read what I actually write. I've always said Ronnie would make it to Brittish level beyond that is down to him. Super Feather is one of the weakest divisions in World Boxing. Liam Walsh is the best in Britan and I think will probably win a world title. A lot of people felt that Ronnie would beat Liam including Billy and a few guys who were involved making the fights. I think that's a very hard fight. Ronnie is his own worst enemy at times he does not do enough. He lives the life but has never trained in the correct way for any of his fights. If you ask anyone dealing with him he had a lot more to give but that's down to him. I don't think he has incredible power but he hits very hard just ask his opponents. My main problem is people thinking he would get stopped by anyone mentioned. Ronnie has never been hurt in any of his fights. He used to spar the best P4P kickboxer in the world who was almost 20kgs heavier and never get hurt. He has a good chin. Yes anyone can be stopped but will need to be someone with crazy power to stop him. I don't see anyone that can do that at Super Feather. Some may beat him on points yes but not stop him