Irish Boxing

Depends on what you mean. I think he sizes up favorably with his domestic counterparts and could lift the Aussie title off Shannon King if he so chose and probably beat the rest of the field except Mundine.

Projected onto the world scene, then yeah, he becomes a small fish in a bigger pond where simply being well-rounded and hard-working doesn't cut it, and his lack of pop and modest athleticism would probably do him in.

 

For the record, I expect he'll trounce Brunson. (who always was a hype job and crumbles when confronted with anybody that has both a pulse and sturdier than glass jaw)

 

I mean very good at world level. But yes I agree with you, Hogan has done well at Aussie level and maybe he could even do well at Euro level, but he is lacking the natural ability to make it as a contender.

The thing is, both he and his team seem to be targeting a world title shot at some point, and since Hogan is now in the IBF top 10, it is an achievable goal, espcially if someone like Bundrage wants what he would most certainly see as an easy voluntary defense against the likes of Hogan. I can't seem him doing well at world level at all, even against guys who are just solid contenders, but it'll be an interesting journey now that Hogan has moved on fromthe Aussie scene anyways

 

See Frampton gave his reasons for not taking the 1.5m in his Newsletter column. I'd post the link but seemingly because I'm not on here long enough yet I can't post them.

 

heres it here gerry:good


Carl Frampton Column: Eddie Hearn has to get real and make realistic offer for Scott Quigg clash

It’s the biggest publicity stunt I’ve seen since that incident between Justin Timberlake and Janet Jackson at Superbowl XXXVIII.

On Tuesday at a press conference in Matchroom Sport’s headquarters, Eddie Hearn and Scott Quigg made me a very public offer to fight Quigg on Sky PPV, on July 18 in Manchester.

They even produced a cheque with my name on it to the tune of £1.5 million. (I’m surprised it wasn’t one of those giant novelty cheques...)

£1.5 million is undoubtedly a lot of money. But does that mean I should snap it up with both hands?

Absolutely not, and there are a number of reasons why.

It’s a flat rate offer, which means that no matter how well this fight does at the box office, this is the most I’ll receive.

This will not, however, be the same case for Scott Quigg and Matchroom Sport.

This will not, however, be the same case for Scott Quigg and Matchroom Sport.

Many would agree this fight will do extremely well at the box office considering that in Eddie and Scott’s words, it’s one of two Super Fights in the UK.


If PPV targets are reached this fight can bring in £10 million and potentially as much as £12 million.

Once the broadcaster’s cut is deducted and other costs are dealt with, on the basis of this offer, the real winner of this fight in monetary terms will be Scott Quigg and Matchroom Sport.

Now, it doesn’t seem fair that the legitimate World Champion should travel to the challenger’s backyard, under his team’s terms and fight for considerably less money than him, does it?

It’s not rocket science and there’s more to this offer than meets the eye.


The bottom line is, without me Scott Quigg has very little options. Without Scott Quigg I have many.

I would be very happy to continue my career in front of millions on ITV, with big paydays and perhaps a debut in the USA.

However, I really would love to silence Quigg, his team and the hundreds of fans that follow him once and for all.

So please, the next time you make an offer, make it a realistic one.

 

"I really would love to silence Quigg, his team and the hundreds of fans that follow him once and for all"

Ouch!

 

Very witty about Quiggs fan numbers! But really to an extent Carl needs Quigg and vice versa.there are not too many options out there at 122.
Rigo? Not likely.
LSC? Leo Santa Duck," mister disappointment" himself, not interested.
Who else is there?
It's one thing telling your boss to take his job and shove it when you've got another, better job lined up. But does Carl?
Let's not be too hasty here, Carl.....

 

Very witty about Quiggs fan numbers! But really to an extent Carl needs Quigg and vice versa.there are not too many options out there at 122.
Rigo? Not likely.
LSC? Leo Santa Duck," mister disappointment" himself, not interested.
Who else is there?
It's one thing telling your boss to take his job and shove it when you've got another, better job lined up. But does Carl?
Let's not be too hasty here, Carl.....

 

I agree. For me the only big fights out there are Quigg and Rigondeaux. Santa Cruz looks to be moving up and I don't think he wants anything to do with Rigondeaux. It's either Quigg or fight mandatories and stiffs for a fraction of the money.

If I'm Frampton I take the quigg fight then a mandatory. By that stage announce you're having one last fight at Sbw and make it a unification bout then regardless of result move up.

 

Apart from Quigg, Rigo or LSC I think Carl has to fight any of Donaire, Mares or Galahad at a push. Anyone else and id be very dissapointed.

 

He can definitely make it at European level anyways. He has solid skills, decent variation in his shots and he can hit very hard.


Obviously its very hard to know if he make it to world class level. But yeah he is worth checking out, he was a solid amateur and won multiple national titles along with competing quite well, but was always more suited to the pro style. His last opponent was supposed to be a step up of sorts, but Phil chinned him easily.

 

ginley makes his return on the eamonn okane bill in may... he can punch but is small for the weight:good

 

On boxrec it says he down at super-middle now.

 

is he ..hes always hovered around light heavy... and looked really small...truth is with the right attitude he could make middle... but i suppose thats the difference from playing at being a boxer and being dedicated to yer profession :good

 

when will con Sheehan make his debut in the pros?