Duran Hagler

Can Duran that fought Hagler edge the Hagler Leonard beat?

 

Funny thing is, after Duran lost to Hagler he spoke with SRL who was in the audience and told him what he had to do to beat Hagler. But I don't know if Duran had the physical tools necessary at that point in his career to pull out a win.

 

Yes, Duran always has a chance. He nearly did it the first time when Hagler was in his prime.

 

Leonard fought a shot fighter.. and I still think Hagler won the fight.

 

no:
he isn't landing(throwing) those late round flurries that leonard did.
he is smaller than leonard and the physical matchup is different.
didn't have the same handspeed by the time he hit mw.
isn't as good as leonard at following a gameplan that wasn't his natural way of fighting.

i scored hagler over duran by 3-5 rds(can't remember xactly), even if you had it closer not many score 4 draw/duran, a regressed hagler would still have won that fight imo.

 

Absolutely.

By the time Leonard got Hagler he was finished. All he did was walk around after Leonard just pushing his arms out, there was no snap to his punches. Roberto would have comfortably out pointed Marvin if he had fought that version of him when they ACTUALLY met.

 

I don't think so...It would still be Marvin...

 

Hagler....the only fighter to ever be rated P4P 1 by many when all he was doing was walking around pushing his arms out and actually completely finished.Wasn't declined, but still a very good capable fighter...no he was thoroughly finished.

Masterful ****ysis.

 

Why do you think he immediately retired after Leonard, sh it for brains?:roll::roll:

 

I hope you die in your sleep tonight.

 

That escalated quickly.

 

I hope I die in my sleep full stop. Saves all that hospital garbage with surgery and sh it like that.

 

I thought Hagler beat Duran CLEARLY, by quite a wide margin, in 1983. The judges' scores were ridiculous.

I had Hagler beating Leonard by 1 point in 1987, but I only thought one of the judges' scores was ridiculous that time.
Could have gone either way.

I don't see Duran beating Hagler in 1987, but with the judges that scored their '83 fight ... yes, he'd get the decision.

 

I think Hagler was a little over the hill. Duran was too but he had the uncanny ability to perform at high levels when motivated and in shape. Leonard stole rounds off Hagler by flurrying at the end of the rounds. Hagler had no defense against that move.

 

So lets get this right. You are saying 3 neutral judges consisting of a Dane, a Japanese, and a Canadian all favoured a Panamanian guy over an American. I very much doubt the Japanese or the Dane even know where Panama is, other than it's got a famous can al. The fact is for 13 rounds Duran made Hagler miss a lot of shots, and countered him, aside from his own effective aggression. Hagler fought a bad fight for those 13 rounds showing far too much respect to Roberto.