Tell me something about Gerald McClellan

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  1. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow...I did not know this.
    Addendum: Would appreciate a source please.
     
  2. frank

    frank Active Member Full Member

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    i know he tortured dogs. that is enough for me!
     
  3. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    No way do I think crimes against people are less important. However most humans who fight for money do so through choice. Forcing dogs to fight for money is a different thing altogether. Also dogs running wild in packs is a far cry from these pit bulls that are kept away from other dogs, and only have contact with their owners until its time to fight. For obvious reasons if a guy has a few of them he has to keep them apart.
     
  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are very uninformed on this subject i can see....
     
  5. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Obviously you don't understand the dogs, crazily enough they do actually enjoy to fight. They are not forced to fight at all, the sport is brutal but IMO less cruel than hunting wild animals with dogs, at least you have two willing combatants.
     
  6. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I do not think that was the case.

    Due to a dispute with the McClellan family Don King (Productions) published a full breakdown of McClellan's purse (with deductions) against Benn and medical costs (Boxing News; Janaury 26 1996):

    The purse and other payments by DKP INC (Don King Productions), to or on behalf of McClellan (in American Dollars) went:

    Training expenses: 50,215.37

    Gross pay (less deductions): 200,000.00

    Less Deductions:

    WBC Sanction: fee (6,000.00)
    BBB of C sanction fee: (4,000.00)
    Payment to ESJEEB-per judgement in case CL 94-3541 Gerald McClellan, deft DKP garnishee, Palm Beach County Circuit Court, Florida: (119,279.35)
    Payment to Trainer Stanley Johnson: (5,000.00)
    Payment to Trainer Donnie Penelt: (2,500.00)

    Net purse paid by DKP to Gerald McClellan (Linda Shorter): 62,920.75


    Gerald McClellan Sept 18 1995: 25,000.00

    Emmett McClellan (father) Sept 18 1995: 5,000.00

    Heathrow Air Ambulance (London to University Michigan Hospital): 90,443.25

    Cash payment to family (Father, Aunt (Linda Shorter), Sister (Stacey), Common Law Wife (Angie Brown): 25,260.00

    Hotel expenses in London (family): 34,226.49

    Family Transportation: 21,728.45

    Angie Brown: 2,500.00

    Total paid direct by DKP to or on behalf of McClellan: $476, 974.58

    Unaid [sp] medical bills to be paid by DKP: 31,519.44

    Grand Total: 508,494.02
     
  7. Estes

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    They are bred and taught to fight, it becomes natural to them. That doesn't make it okay. They are "willing" because they will be abandoned by their owner if they don't fight and will get hurt or die if they don't win. If they get excited in the act I don't see how that's any different from my adrenaline pumping while I defend myself from an unprovoked attack by a human being.

    I suppose you have asked these dogs for their philosophical outlook on what they do and are content that they are fully in control of their actions, yes? No? Okay then.
     
  8. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah they are willing because a dog knows in it's head that if it doesn't fight it will get abandoned.... :nut

    A dog doesn't wag it's tail in a fight like these dogs do if they are scared tortured creatures. Like I said killing wild animals with dogs is a hell of a lot worse than dog matching.
     
  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He sparred Evander Holyfield ( http://www.boxingforum24.com/showpost.php?p=16790671&postcount=81 ) and Michael Moorer.
    Sparring Thomas Hearns was a soft touch for him.
    Walked through Julian Jackson's punches.
    Benn cheated against him and got a further help from the referee.
    Had it not for that referee, McClellan would have gotten rid of Benn inside 1 or 2 rds.
     
  10. Estes

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    Why do you think any dog does what its owner tells it to? Because it knows its owner is responsible for its food and shelter. If its owner treats it well, it obeys because it wants to. If its owner treats it cruelly, it obeys out of fear.
     
  11. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Load of rubbish, a dog doesn't fight because it's owner wants it to. It has a choice to fight or quit, it fights because it wants to.
     
  12. Foxy 01

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    Bollox.

    And you know it. Dogs more often than not do not fight when they meet other dogs, and if they do its usually a bit of mouthing each other around the neck until they are broken apart. TRAINING dogs to kill, and fight to the death is a completely different matter altogether.

    With all due respect I can tell by your location that you are an apologist for dog fighting, because from there up to Northumberland it is / was rife.

    Do you really believe the the powers that be decided to make it illegal because they simply didn't want a bunch of savage northerners having a bit of " fun " or do you think it just might have been because it is both inhumane, and moronic?

    If you feel so strongly about it, why not go on protest marches and demonstrations like those fox hunting weirdo's, as opposed to holding the dog fights in pikey camps and such like sh it holes?
     
  13. mcvey

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    In hunting with dogs ,if it is conducted properly, the hunted has a chance of escape .Two dogs in a pit have no option but to fight, and till one of them is very severely injured if not killed.
    Along with this we have the training where some Pit Bull owners ,[and McClellan is said to have done this] , tape up the jaws of a pet dog and set the pit bull on it.
    I see no valid comparison between dog fighting and hunting.
    In one the hunted has a sporting chance of escape in the other one or both animals face a horrific mauling that may result in parts of their faces being ripped off, if it survives it then has weeks of pain while it recovers to endure it all over again.
    Hunting is a sport ,dog fighting is baiting animals till one has absorbed so much punishment it is rendered helpless. I hunt , but think dog fighting is barbaric and sadistic, were I to be at a dog fight,[ and I never have been but have seen videos of it which made me physically sick],I should feel compelled to stop it,and probably get my face punched in by those who enjoy such a sick pastime.
     
  14. Estes

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    They also often use weaker dogs before the actual fights to get the fighting dogs in the mood. But Wass isn't interested in facts, because he knows the dogs love it.
     
  15. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again utter rubbish, the dog does have an option it can quit. Yeah and we all know hunting animals with dogs is conducted properly... Only idiots who don't have a clue about the dogs would tape up a pet cur to let his gamedog maul a helpless animal, have you seen the pics of McClellan's dogs?? They were nothing but fat little show ponies, no way in hell was he involved in the dog game.

    Isn't it ironic that one of your idols almost certainly was involved with dog fighting....