De La Hoya's opposition is savage!!!

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  1. ross

    ross Active Member Full Member

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    also Ruelas and Leija, while not great fighters they were both world champions at one time
     
  2. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    De La Hoya was a massive draw no doubt. But he faced so many great fighters and big names. Just beyond belief was his opposition.

    Here's the thing, if all of his top fights (and he had an absurd amount of them) were wide decision or knockout losses like Hopkins and Pacquiao were, he wouldn't have been the draw he was.

    He took on top level guys and almost always ended up with a controversial win or loss.

    He went to war over and over again with the big names. You're going to be a draw if you take on just about every big name in boxing there is. He moved mountains to fight the best fighters.
     
  3. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He didn't move mountains to fight Vernon Forest or Winky Wright.
     
  4. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    You can't fight everyone.
     
  5. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just saying.
     
  6. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    HATERS GON' HATE :smoke

    :good
     
  7. Selina

    Selina Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His resume is one of the best in the game. He gave a show everytime he fought(except Sturm). One of my favorite fighter post 1993.
     
  8. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Here are some facts for your bro.

    1. He offered Winky Wright his biggest pay day @ 6 million!!!! For an opportunity to fight him after Winky beat Mosley. Winky declined his offer.

    2. In May of 2001 Vernon Forrest became a FIRST time champ at Welterweight by beating Raul Frank for the VACANT IBF title.

    The following month June of 2001 Oscar De La Hoya became 8 time world champion by winning the JR. Middleweight crown by dethroning Javier Castillejo.

    n 2002 Vernon Forrest became theWBC Welterweight champion by beating Mosley.

    In September of 2002, Oscar De La Hoya became the unified JR. Middleweight champion by KO Fernando Vargas.

    In 2003 Forrest lost to Wildman Mayorga TWICE.

    In 2003 Oscar De La Hoya was robbed against Mosley.

    The rest is history for both men.

    Oscar never ducked Forrest because Forrest was never is Oscar's weight class when Forrest was relevant. Oscar was busy capturing titles in different weight classes.
     
  9. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't see how you can criticize his resume at all. It's excellent. Granted, in regard to "ATG rankings" it would have served him better to win some of the other fights rather than lose, but he still took on those challenges and had an excellent career that spanned multiple weight classes.

    It's not like when Oscar did lose, he lost to some low ranked opponent. The guy fought world class opposition.
     
  10. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wright tried to unify the junior middleweight championships when he and Oscar were the champs. That fight didn't happen (probably because of Arum to be honest). Vernon called out Oscar constantly at 154 and that fight didn't happen either.lol at Vernon not being relevant. Was Pac relevant at 147 when Oscar chose to fight him? Oscar had a great career but like all "A-side" fighters, he fought who he wanted when he wanted.
     
  11. bigtime-skills

    bigtime-skills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol:You are obviously either (1). new to the sport; or (2). new to Oscar Delahoya..... His resume is GREAT, but he was very selective in his Welterweight reign.....He was also NEVER decisive in his big "fights" save his 12th round against Ike Quartey..
     
  12. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wrong, whitaker was just a step off prime but still rated P4p#1 in the world hence why that fight was called "P4P" and oscar became p4p beating Whitaker.
    Chavez was still extremely active and undefeated for years before Oscar destroyed him, but yes, well past his best.
     
  13. Mr. STRUGG

    Mr. STRUGG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oscar was really a great competitor. Oscar had cojones that floyd never had post 135.

    Its a shame he choke against pernell, tito and pac.
    Past prime was Pretty good and competitive against floyd.
     
  14. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    OMG, are you guys new to boxing? Whitaker was almost prime still, even roy who was friend with Whitaker said during that fight when asked if Pernell was still prime, roy said YES, but lost a small step.
    You're not shot and still ranked P4P #1 in the world ahead of prime guys like Roy Jones, Hopkins, Tony, Tyson, Evander, Morrales, Barrera, Lewis etc lol
     
  15. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How did Oscar choke against Pernell?
    Pernell choked against Oscar, gave away the last round, not that it mattered but Pernell was dancing when he should have been fighting in a close fight like that.

    Giving 2.5 rounds away to Trinidad did not cost him the fight. They were never going to let oscar win that fight by decision, Don King ensured that. Even if oscar finished up as strong as he dominated Tito first 9.5 rounds, he still wouldn't have won. These judges were giving Tito clear Oscar rounds, Oscar still would've lost. he had to KO tito to win that fight.