Who would be the greatest fighters if clinching even once got you DQ'd?

It is a natural reaction to hold on when you are hurt from a punch. Yes, almost everybody would be DQ'd at some point in their career.

Your entire premise is ridiculous. You expect a human being to "not defend themselves" and just take another punch because they would get DQ'd? Sure dude.

Yea yea, they can block, parry, slip.... and if they are hurt? What then? Just let the guy tee off because you can't grab? LOL -- Like I said - Your thread is a ridiculous joke and you can't be serious. It honestly makes me question if you've ever been in any kind of actual physical altercation in your life.

 

This is the worst thread of 2015 so far. The absolute worst. Again, started up by a Pac dik rider lol. This place has gone to shyt these days.

 

Boxing is a very pure sport. Not a whole of complications. No holding or wrestling is 2nd rule in the boxing rulebook.

I know what you mean about being hurt. It's natural to "take cover" when somebody is punching the **** out of you and it's hurts like hell.

Still they have to enforce clinching better IMO. What can you do? I would try giving warnings and deductions for offensive clinching. If you're plan is to go in there, hug and use the clinch as an offensive weapon that's so obviously breaking the rules.

 

Yea, Fantasy Land. Just as I said.

How about keeping the boxing discussion in the "realm of realism." Disqualifying some of the greatest boxers in the history of the sport doesn't make for a great conversation starter.

 

The problem is, if you hit the guy with a punch, or even a 2 punch combination, and then clinch. How do you penalize for that?

It's illegal to hold and hit. That is already enforced. But to hit somebody, and then hold? There is no rule against it. Perhaps this is an oversight, but there is nothing that states it isn't allowed. Not that I am aware of and I've followed boxing about 30 years.

Obviously if you just sit there and hug the guy for 3 minutes without ever throwing a punch, you'll be penalized. But that's not what is being discussed and is a moot point. Nobody would argue somebody who doesn't throw punches and just hugs shouldn't be penalized or DQ'd.


Example: If somebody threw an average of say, 45 punches per round. But also had an average of 9 clinches per round... how do you say it's excessive? Where do you draw the line? I mean, the guy threw 45 punches, so argument could be made he's not just holding. He's throwing 5 punches for every clinch that occurs.

 

Jmm

 

You couldn't destroy a wet paper bag.

Like I said: It is a ridiculous premise because you have zero quantifiable data to even begin the discussion. Every fighter in the history of boxing has clinched.

What do you suggest if the fighters get their arms tangled up legitimately? You do know not all clinches are necessarily on purpose right? What do you do? DQ them both? :nut

How does the referee determine who initiated and who did not? Referee can't make mistakes and DQ the wrong guy? :nut

Do you work at being this stupid? Or does it come natural to you?

 

I think this is a pretty decent question. It's hypothetical, no need to take it so seriously (victor)...I've wondered this question myself. Who actually likes watching frequent clinching in boxing?? I sure don't.

And I would answer the thread with prime Floyd Mayweather, Erislandy Lara, and someone like Brandon Rios. Boxers with real awesome slick defensive skill or with some good inside fighting techniques where if clinching was rightfully more penalized, they wouldn't need clinching to win.

 

Clinches happen without being initiated as well. What do you do then? DQ them both for getting tangled up?

You're stuck on stupid man.

 

It's impossible to answer because fighters get tangled up, even if they don't mean to. At some point, there is going to be a style clash that causes the guys to get tangled up more often. It happens all the time.

The question is really ridiculous. Even Duran clinched, and he was a Tasmanian Devil in the ring.

How do you even begin this discussion? Clinching is a part of boxing.

 

Tike Myson