Anyone think The 1940's Heavies Were On A Par With The 1970's?

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  1. Dubblechin

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    There weren't.
     
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  2. Dubblechin

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    Yes, how did Liston end up on a list of 70s heavyweights?

    Based on the newspapers stacked on his porch, he was dead before 1971 even began.
     
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  3. edward morbius

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    If we are considering the forties (1940-1949) rather than the technical decade definition (1941-1950, as there was no year zero)

    Baer was the #1 contender in 1940 and stopped Galento and Comiskey.

    Galento was the #1 contender at the end of 1939 coming into the forties.
     
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  4. Dubblechin

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    The fact that Tony Galento was the #1 contender entering 1940 says a lot about how awful the division was.

    Tony Galento never would've been the number-one contender in the 1970s.

    Here are 20 guys who, in the 1970s, would've beat the living snot out of Tony Galento.

    Muhammad Ali
    George Foreman
    Joe Frazier
    Larry Holmes
    Ken Norton
    Jerry Quarry
    Ron Lyle
    Oscar Bonavena
    Earnie Shavers
    Jimmy Young
    Joe Bugner
    Leon Spinks
    John Tate
    Mike Weaver
    Gerrie Coetzee
    Jimmy Ellis
    Michael Dokes
    Gerry C00ney
    Eddie “The Animal” Lopez
    Bernardo Mercado

    Hell, Greg Page was a novice in the 1970s, and he'd have spanked Galento, too.
     
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  5. mcvey

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    Ranked no 8 in1970:good
     
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  6. mcvey

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    Liston was ranked no 8 in 1970.

    Lastarza was not ranked in the 1940's.
    OK ?
     
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  7. mcvey

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  8. mcvey

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    Baer had three fights in the 1940's two wins over the unranked Galento and the unranked Comiskey and atko loss to Nova in 1941 he then retired is he relevant? Correction ,I was wrong about Comiskey he was rated no 7.
     
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  9. The Mongoose

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    Yep.

    LaStarza was 37-0 in the 1940s and closed the decade with a top 10 rating and win over fellow contender Brion.

    A 40+ year old Liston was 1-0 in the 1970s. And it wasn't even a very good win.

    You would be a fool to say LaStarza was not acceptable for the 40s but Liston was for 70s. A bias old fool.
     
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  10. mcvey

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    You would be an imbecile to include Satterfield as a relevant heavyweight in the 1940's since, not only was he not above 165lbs in that decade he never fought a heavyweight until the 1950's but, I suppose personal dislike warps some small- minded people's perceptions to the point of irrationality.:good
    Like wise how were:
    Carnera
    Galento
    Farr
    Valdes
    Schmeling
    Layne
    Henry
    Factors in the 1940's heavyweight shake up?

    Neither Lastarza or Brion were rated in the 1940's.:huh

    Warped indeed!


    NB its biased not bias.:good
     
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  11. SuzieQ49

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    Yes he was. Number 10 in 1949
     
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  12. The Mongoose

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    It depends on the parameters. If this was a true measuring of what these decades were actually like, alot of guys being talked about wouldn't be considered for either decade. But Baer along with Liston were name dropped in the opening post so here we are.

    Baer was the #1 HW contender in 1940 until Nova smashed him into retirement that year.

    I think the 1940 Comiskey fight is one of Baer's most impressive filmed performances. All few minutes of it.
     
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  13. mcvey

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    I'll have a look in my old Ring mags.
     
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  14. SuzieQ49

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    Ring magazine 1949

    Title: Vacant

    1. Ezzard Charles
    2. Lee Oma
    3. Turkey Thomson
    4. Jersey joe Walcott
    5. Bruce Woodkock
    6. Lee Savold
    7. Jimmy Bivins
    8. Pat Valentino
    9. Omelio Agramonte
    10. Roland Lastarza
     
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  15. mcvey

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    If it was a true measuring no one would have included Bob Satterfield's name but they did! Someone thought they could be clever but it came back to bite them in the ass!
     
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