Anyone think The 1940's Heavies Were On A Par With The 1970's?

So being a better fighter than Wepner qualifies you for a rating 30 years earlier? Forget Liston. I put him in and anyone can take him out, replace him or not.I feel the focus has drifted onto a couple of names that aren't germane to the discussion. Lastarza's biggest win in the 40s was over unranked Brion.

A win over Brion ? Let's keep this in perspective Brion had his first 21 fights against very underwhelming opposition he then lost twice when he stepped up a notch, and his best win in the 40's was over a Mauriello who retired in his dressing room after their fight. Mauriello was gone he had lost his last bout to Joe Dominic 17-9-0. So no ticker tape parade for beating Brion.

 

Nova fought Galento in Sep 1939 so Galento's win is not valid in the 40's were he did f*ck all .
BTW Galento was 10lbs lighter against Nova than he was when he challenged Louis in a fight that you stated he was the "fit Galento" .
Below is a picture of the 10lbs lighter Galento against Nova he's still as fat as a pig.
You don't know what the f*ck you are talking about do you?

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One more point, Galento beat Nova by continually fouling him, in particular repeatedly thumbing his eye.Should he have fought in the 70's he would have been slung out and probably barred for life.


"Galento was permitted to thumb Nova's right eye until it reached a terrible condition. Finally, Nova went down in the 14th round after being fouled for the last time.
"One of the most disgraceful fights staged since the days of the barroom brawls. Referee George Blake . . . would have retained his reputation as a great referee had he disqualified Galento." (The Ring, December 1939, page 16)
The December 1997 issue of The Ring ranked Galento vs. Nova as the third dirtiest fight of all-time.

 

Lets have a look at Rex Layne's 1940's achievements.
He had his first fight on the 23rd of May 1949! Fifteen fights during the decade all with ham and eggers Wow! He sure made a terrific impact on the decade!
Here is his impressive 40's resume.

1949-12-12

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Joe Sandell

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Fairgrounds Coliseum, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA W KO 3 10
time: 1:18 | referee: Ken Shulsen
1949-11-21

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Sonny Orrock

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Fairgrounds Coliseum, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA W TKO 3 10
time: 1:40
Reported as Layne's 15th straight victory since turning pro.
1949-11-14

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Lloyd Gibson

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Fairgrounds Coliseum, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA W KO 3 10
time: 2:46
Gibson was knocked down twice in the 2nd, and once in the 3rd round.
1949-10-04

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Ponce de Leon

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Fairgrounds Coliseum, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA W KO 3 10
time: 2:15
1949-09-02

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Willie McCoy

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Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, USA W TKO 6 6
time: 2:59 | referee: Jimmy Wilson
1949-08-22

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Young Harry Wills

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Fairgrounds Coliseum, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA W KO 6 10
time: 1:40
1949-08-18

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Gene Pearce

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Midvale, Utah, USA W TKO 3 8
time: 0:57
1949-08-11

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Lee Carter

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Salina, Utah, USA W KO 2 6
1949-08-03

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Buddy Thomas

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Fairgrounds Coliseum, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA W KO 2 10
time: 2:44
1949-07-21

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Lee Carter

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Logan, Utah, USA W TKO 5 6
1949-07-12

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Joe Williams

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Derks Field, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA W KO 1 6
time: 0:55
1949-06-21

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George Abinet

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Fairgrounds Coliseum, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA W KO 1 6
time: 1:31
1949-06-10

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Hank Thurman

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Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, USA W PTS 4 4
1949-05-31

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Jim Watkins

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Fairgrounds Coliseum, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA W KO 6 6
time: 1:47
1949-05-23

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Jim Watkins

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Fairgrounds Coliseum, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA W TKO 1 6
referee: Al Ablett
Watkins was knocked down three times.

 

Here is a break down of Primo Carnera's resume in the 1940's.

1946-05-12

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Luigi Musina

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Gorizia, Friuli-Venezia Giulia, Italy L UD 8 8
1946-03-19

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Luigi Musina

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Trieste, Friuli-Venezia Giulia, Italy L PTS 8 8
1945-11-21

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Luigi Musina

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Milan, Lombardia, Italy L TKO 7 8
Primo floored three times before the referee stopped the bout. Attendance 7,000.
1945-09-25

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Sam Gardner San Sabba Stadium, Trieste, Friuli-Venezia Giulia, Italy W KO 1 4
1945-07-22

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Michel Blevens Moretti Stadium
Carnera was coming out of an 8years retirement.

I bet the other heavies were shaking in their boots!

 

Below are Max Schmeling's 1940's fights, like Carnera above Schmeling was coming out of an eight years retirement. He was also 42 years old when he had his first 40's fight,fighting with a support bandage on his knee damaged when he was in the airborne.

1948-10-31

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Richard Vogt

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Waldbuehne, Westend, Berlin, Germany L PTS 10 10
1948-10-02

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Hans Joachim Draegestein

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VFB Platz, Kiel, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany W TKO 9 10
Draegestein suffered broken jaw.
1948-05-23

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Walter Neusel

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Platz in Hamburg-Altona, Altona, Hamburg, Germany L PTS 10 10
1947-12-07

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Hans Joachim Draegestein

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Omnibushalle, Altona, Hamburg, Germany W PTS 10 10
1947-09-28

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Werner Vollmer

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Waldstadion, Frankfurt, Hessen, Germany


He really dominated the 40's!

 

Here is an examination of Tommy Farr's 1940's record.

1940-08-07

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Zachary Nicholas

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Market Hall, Barnstaple, Devon, United Kingdom W TKO 3 10x3
Boxing August 15, 1940 P 14



Yes that's it! One fight with a journeyman.!