Ken Norton Vs Lamon Brewster

Wladimir should get more credit for beating Brewster in the rematch. Brewster came in a trim 228 for the rematch and still was a dangerous puncher. He dispatched Danny batcholder in 5 rounds who gave a good James toney a very tough fight

 

What has he done differently since 2004 to convince you of this?

 

Well the true story here is that Brewster wasn't the same fighter. He was 34 years old coming off a loss to a fighter he was expected to beat. He then had a 16 month layoff with detached retina surgery. He in fact told the Klitschko camp he didn't want the fight, that he preferred a tune up first. They then offered a career best payday to fight and he excepted. Would it have made a difference...probably not at that stage of his career.

 

When will the lies stop?

 

Already explained that wasn't the injury that left him blind.

The injury that left him blind with a dead looking eye he showed off in the K2 doc was from the Helenius fight, Brewster himself has said that.

If you want to call the man a liar, go to his face and do it, tough guy. He isn't hard to find.


After fourteen years in the ring, former WBO heavyweight champion Lamon Brewster, who has undergone four unsuccessful surgeries to restore sight in his left eye, has called a halt to his career in the ring. Brewster, who hasn’t had sight in his left eye since his bout against Robert Helenius believes his last opponents gloves were tainted in some fashion. “My team wasn’t allowed to inspect Helenius’s gloves or witness his hands being wrapped,” states Brewster. “I feel I was done wrong, and now with no sight there is no way I can continue my fighting career.”

 

The first Brewster fight is the last time I've seen him go wild, missing flurries of power right hands, looking for a knockout agianst a hurt opponent.

He hasn't gassed out, gone pale, dropped his hands, and stumbled around with his mouth open after a few rounds of fighting since...

 

His retina was detached against Liakhovich. That was well over a year before Wlad dragged him out of in activity so he could pick up a loser check.

It was the same injury that retired Margarito. He was never the same and shot to bits against Wlad.

 

Thank you Captain Obvious. Nobody is denying that fact.

 

He also went blind.

 

He regained vision in the eye after surgery. He was finished after the corneal problems.

 

And he had surgery that restored his vision. He went blind and got the dead eye you see in the doc from the Helenius fight as referenced above. But if you want to make up your timeline, take quotes out of context to call him a liar...that's your business.

 

Exactly, dino is just being dino.

 

I always think of the Nic Cage movie 8MM. And the porn producer who starts his movies off with "Welcome to the world of Dino Velvet".

 

Okay so maybe the Brewster fight of 2004 was the last time we saw shades of the former rendition of Wlad. But I disagree with someone who said that his prime began in 2007, 11 years and some 50 fights past his debut. But 2005 he had been working with Steward for quite some time, was nearly 30 and had accumulated a fair number of pro bouts.

 

I think Wlad 2000-2007 was still a great fighter, he did pick up many execellent wins in that period. He just had some very major flaws that could be exploited under the right conditions by the right fighters. Steward improved his pacing, confidence, and ring IQ considerably.

Depends on how one defines "prime" I suppose. While still an elite athlete, Wlad isn't even close to the freak he was back in those early fights when he was only 220-230 bouncing all over the ring, throwing varied combinations from all over the place, but he was also more vulnerable than the older version.