Max Kellerman has Manny ahead of Floyd on his all time P4P list

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  1. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    So he was banned without proof? stfu
     
  2. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Not at all Floyd is an incredibly talented boxer. If he beats Manny on May 2 LEGITIMATELY!! I'll be the first to congratulate him. I just fail to understand why a boxer with his talents needs to cherry pick opponents & avoid the more dangerous ones. Plus those he does fight he always gets every advantage. He could really be rated one of TBE today its all his own fault why he isn't :patsch
     
  3. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    You'll find a way to make it illegitimate, you already have. As soon as the fight was signed you found a way. You're a weasel.
     
  4. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yet you think the corner post beat Ricky and took his 0. I doubt you will give Floyd his due if he wins and the fight is remotely close.
     
  5. Windigo

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    Manny's natural prime weight is 135. He fought at that weight once. He spent almost his entire prime fighting 2 weight classes above his natural weight. That is why he is P4P better. Floyd will never ever fight at 160 nor could he.

    At 135 Manny would have obliterated the division.
     
  6. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You scored Maidana 1 as 116-112 for Chino so Floyd better win 12-0 on May 2nd to get a draw on your card.
     
  7. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    ffs did he really score it that way? :rofl
     
  8. M.3

    M.3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Didn't you already say he paid off everyone involved in the fight already?
     
  9. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep :/ Hence my skepticism that he'll give Floyd much credit if he wins another fight that's close-ish but clear on May 2nd.
     
  10. Cisco Route

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    :deal

    Lol..
     
  11. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is a good point. Though I'd argue 147 isn't Floyd's natural prime weight either.
     
  12. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everybody talks about how Floyd hasn't lost, but how about how he's won?

    Nobody talks about that, but that's perhaps the most important aspect in boxing from an entertainment perspective.

    Ray Robinson wasn't just the greatest fighter of all time, he was one of the greatest entertainers as well because he went out there on a mission to knock his opponent out.

    And he took risks, substantial risks. He went all the way up to Light Heavyweight from Lightweight.

    Ray was a gladiator. Ali was a gladiator. Ali wasn't satisfied with winning a limp dlck decision over George Foreman, but instead went for the knockout. He was an entertainer.

    Pacquaio is also a gladiator.

    How many times has Mayweather sucker his punched his opponents or inexplicably quit in the middle of action to complain to the ref when things weren't going his way???

    Even in Mayweather's greatest performance, he had to sucker punch in his words, "C Level," Gatti to win.

    Mayweather also sucker punched Ortiz. You know what would cause a man to sucker punch another man? FEAR.

    He was scared.

    Pacquaio wouldn't do that because he would never scared enough to fight dirty like that. That speaks more than just losses.

    How did Mayweather beat De LaHoya???

    He beat him in in a poor, controversial decision, leaving people unimpressed with boxing. This was supposed to be Mayweather's coming out fight.

    Let me ask you this, what left a better impression? Pacquaio's annihilation of Oscar or Mayweather's decision?

    Mayweather also avoided Margarito. Everyone wanted that fight, yet Mayweather came up with so many excuses to avoid him.

    You have to hold that against him.
     
  13. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think you have to hold having a defensive style against him. It's how he's most effective. Manny fights aggressively because that's how he's most effective.

    DLH decision wasn't controversial to people who know how so score boxing matches, neither was Maidana... There's Castillo 1 and that's it.

    Gatti his greatest performance? No one has said that...ever

    There's nothing wrong with fear, it's the greatest motivator.
     
  14. TJ Max

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    Regardless of what you thought about the DLH decision, it left a bad taste in people's mouths. It was hardly impressive for a guy who is supposed to be taking over the sport.

    And I don't hold a defensive style against him, but him not fighting certain fighters should hurt his legacy.

    You're right though, it's how he's most effective, but at the same time, look at what he's had to do to get to this point.

    He's had to sucker punch opponents, disrespect everyone, and overall, just be a **** poor role model.

    An offensive fighter doesn't have to do that, but an offensive fighter also takes more risks.

    You know that higher risk often comes with higher reward. If you you're risk averse, don't expect to hit the lottery.

    So what did Mayweather have to do, he had to act like a real piece of ****, both inside and outside of the ring.

    He talks about being blessed, but if he's truly a religious man, he must have never read a page out of the bible and he should just refrain from mentioning God because he's tarnishing God's name.
     
  15. TJ Max

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    And it's about class. If you disagree that class should be included in how you rate a fighter, that's your prerogative, but certainly a dirty fighter should not be held in the same esteem as if he accomplished what he did if he was clean.

    There is something called sportsmanlike conduct and respect.

    This is what is supposed to separate people from animals.