This does NOT feel like a big fight coming up!

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  1. Typhoon

    Typhoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you are not really ****yzing things carefully. First of all, Bradley is no chump. He outclassed JMM and was undefeated before losing to Pac. He would've given 08-11 Pac a good fight too... he's a P4P best fighter. Pac still outclassed him in both fights

    Pac was arguably looking better than ever against JMM in their 4th fight. He did get knocked down in 3rd or 4th round but he came right back up and was rearranging JMM's face. He made one careless move and he paid for it, but that careless move came cause he was beating the **** out of JMM and he got overconfident. Had JMM dominated the fight from start to end, I would agree with you - Pac is way past his prime, it's not what happened though

    Pac destroyed Rios, absolutely destroyed him. It was one of his best performances EVER, WITHOUT QUESTION. Rios is no chump, he KO'd Alavarado, who gave JMM a good fight. Pac shut him out for 12 rounds and it is a FACT that this was one of his best performances. Who cares if he didn't KO him, Rios has never being KO'd..

    Pac destroyed Algieri, embarrassed him and Algieri is no joke. He had skills although inexperienced.

    I haven't seen much sign of decline at all and it's not just because i'm a Pac fan, you just have to carefully ****yze his last fights... he even looked good in worst loss, until that careless move
     
  2. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I only seen the second fight and I couldn't see what pacquiao was doing so well in a lot of rounds, I thought the commentary was wile biased and called a lot that didn't land. Was disappointed in pacquiao in that fight was tighter than made out in my opinion and Bradley leg was ****ed after round 5
     
  3. Scar

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    The second fight was definitely more competitive than the first, but still it was a clear win for Pacquiao.
     
  4. Scar

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    Excellent post, exactly my thoughts too.
     
  5. kirk

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    Ill rewatch the fight this evening, live I had it 8 to 4ish for Pac... def will take a second look. But I definitely feel both fights were more competitive then they should have been for Pac... and I think he looked a step behind a prime pac in both as well. Just imo
     
  6. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacquiao looked either over or under trained against Bradley in April. His condition was bad compared to usual. I don't know if it was because his wife was preggers and about to pop or what, but his condition wasn't that good. Even Justine Fortune admitted to it. It's not that he looked horrible because he looked good, he just didn't look super conditioned.
     
  7. panchman69

    panchman69 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Trust me this fight will break the ppv record.
     
  8. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    I(could be wrong) somehow feel you're underestimating Bradley here. He's definitely an elite A level fighter. I wouldn't even bring up his name alongside walking sandbags like Rios who's C class at best. Pacquiao, in my opinion, dominated him like he's nothing and forced him to be more aggressive in the rematch and Pacquiao beat him at that too.

    The reason why Bradley was forced on the aggressive in the rematch is because, as he already admitted, he knew he's not winning a boxing match against Pacquiao as proven in the first fight. Only an elite fighter can make that type of adjustment and change for one fight even if unsuccessfully so. Most average fighters just show up exactly the same.
     
  9. kirk

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    Trust me man, I have ****yzed his fights, and its why I see what I do. And in fact, the results speak for themselves to me. Its one thing to say you see what you see, but the results speak for themselves. His least competitive fight to date with JMM (3), his first KD let alone a KO so bad his team thought he died (4), the Rios fight, the second Bradley fight... I don't see how anyone can watch the first 3 rounds of the Bradley rematch and not see hes a step behind a peak Pac, its so obvious to me. Imo, you are getting excited about the general outcome of the fights and the names hes doing it against without accurately seeing the subtlety's within the mechanics during the fight that are diminishing for him.


    But more then all that, I go by what I see in the ring. He can have a win over Bradley, but if he looks a step behind where I think he has been before, it is what it is. It doesn't erase his win, if anything it makes his wins over Bradley and Rios even more impressive to me, which Ive stated. Its not often that a fading fighter gets a win over a p4p opponent the way Pac did Bradley. Its a testament to his greatness. How many other fighters, on the wrong side of their prime can get a win over a top tier fighter like Bradley, or a relentless punisher like Rios. Not many.

    But if you think that at age 36, after 64 pro fights over 20 years, many grueling fights, countless gym wars, a recent cold blooded KO, all while having an athletic based style that relies on agility and speed, and that he hasn't declined, I don't know what to tell you. Its obvious to my eye, its obvious in the results hes had in the ring, and its obvious physiologically that he would.

    This is all just imo though man. :good But my opinion serves me well majority of the time. I am not married to them however, and if Pac comes out in the Mayweather fight and looks great to me, I will happily admit how wrong I was.




    Whats your prediction for May 2nd? :think
     
  10. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  11. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pretty much.

    Also there has been little promotion. People said there would have been huge publicity the two weeks before the fight, but meh.
     
  12. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yet here you are:think
     
  13. bacos_630

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    I think you just described Maidana, the one dimensional brawler that Floyd had to fight twice to get a convincing win. Castillo, by your definition, is also a one dimensional brawler and he should'v won the first fight with Floyd.
     
  14. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This looks to be a diminishment of Maidana simply to diminish Floyd's win over him. Maidana is not a one dimensional brawler. You could say his boxing ability is basic but when you add it up with unconventional angles and timing you end up with a fighter that has the ability to give many problems by way of unpredictability. Manny also has the ability of odd angles but only when you're pressing him are they really a danger, and his timing..totally predictable. Then add in he stops throwing when being out classed, nevermind, I'll stop talking, this is totally depressing me..somehow I hope a good fights comes of this.
     
  15. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Really going out on a limb here, eh?

    :smoke