Joe Louis vs Archie Moore 1950-1951

Officially, but several were genuine fights under the exhibition banner.

Two bouts with Valdez and one with Valentino fresh off the Charles title challenge, are three that were said to be such fights. There's some interesting articles on these somewhere.

 

Who did Louis destroy in between 50/51?


I've given his three stoppage wins during that period.

One was a nobody .
One was a veteran who was one fight away from retirement.
One was a former fringe contender who had lost his last 4 fights. You are loyal to Louis, but totally unrealistic as to his capabilities in his final 2 years as a fighter.
And now you are spitting your dummy out because you aren't getting the answer from posters that you wanted and expected.

 

Thanks.

 

Louis wins.

 

I never wrote he beats Joe Louis .. I wrote he beats the slow, plodding, hittable near punchless version of 1951 ..

 

SQ, you've spent years building up what a quality fighter Moore was at heavyweight to justify Marciano's victory as a qualification for greatness and now you beat him down to qualify another watered down Marciano victim ..

 

So essentially the Marciano victory Moore was not a great accomplishment for ranking him as an all time great heavyweight then by this logic .. ok .. I agree w that. where we differ is that I feel the 1951 Louis was far from being a great fighter, no better than the 1978 version of Ali that fought Spinks if even that good.

 

Afteer losing to Louis on cuts, Walker had a further 11 fights losing all of them and being stopped in 5.What does that say to you?

The BBB of C was a toothless tiger who tried to engineer moderate British heavyweight Bruce Wood**** into a title he s****ed a win over Savold on a foul and Savold stopped him in the rematch, whereupon the BBB of C promptly
recognized Savold as Worlds
Champion after Louis exposed Savold as a past prime in and outer whose best days were over TheBBB of C promptly dropped their absurd claim
"Prior to this match, Savold was recognized as Heavyweight Champion by the British Boxing Board of Control;
following this fight, the BBBC recognized Ezzard Charles"

"If Louis connects it's over?" Why is that ? Men who couldn't carry his spit bucket when he was prime were going the distance with him in1950 &51!

Brion who himself was nothing special, twice went the distance with Louis, do you think he could have achieved that against even the 1946 Louis?

Savold was a ringworn past prime 36 year old when he faced Louis he would have one further fight be stopped and retire

.If you want an assessment of his remaining abilities when he fought Louis, read AJ Liebling's The Sweet Science.
Moore beat plenty of good jabbers Valdesx2, Johnson x4,
Maxim x 3 ,Bivins Baker,Henry.

 

Intiguing fight at that point in time.

 

I've been smiling to myself about this too. I like Suzie's posts but,sometimes--------------