Beating a great fighter in his prime is shockingly rare

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  1. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Floyd has been the "Prime ATG" IN every division hes been in... Tell me who he should of fought?
     
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  2. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    So there's only ever been a single ATG in their prime in Boxing, and that's Floyd, right? Go to bed you annoying turd.
     
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  3. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Cause you dont know what youre talking about idiot... i told you you dont know shiet about boxing:deal:lol: and your comprehensive skills show youre either slow, or a dumb kid!
     
    drenlou, Apr 25, 2015
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  4. kirk

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    List the ATG's that Mayweather didn't fight
     
    kirk, Apr 25, 2015
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  5. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can't really, because there has really been no one in or around his weight division that you can legitimately consider even a top 100 ATG w/ the exception of Pacquiao, and they are fighting now.
     
    wylan911, Apr 25, 2015
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  6. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was. You dont just beat Vitali, Tua, Holyfield and Golota.
     
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  7. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Like who? Just answer the question. Who are these ATG's you're referring to?
     
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  8. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Exactly lol I was giving him a chance!!
     
    alexthegreatmc, Apr 25, 2015
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  9. Brandish

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    he's just spouting off at the mouth:deal typical floyd hater.

    floyd defeated 11 hofers in his career while they were champions in their weight class. unheard of in the modern era. when he starches manny it will be 12 hofers defeated and 26-0 in championship fights:deal

    1. Genaro hernandez WBC 130
    2. Diego Corrales IBF 130
    3. Jose Luis castillo WBC 135
    4. Arturo Gatti WBC 140
    5. Zab Judah IBF 147
    6. Oscar De La Hoya WBC 154
    7. Ricky hatton IBF 140
    8. Juan Manuel marquez WBA/WBO 135
    9. Shane Mosley WBA 147
    10. Miguel Cotto WBA 154
    11. canelo alvarez WBA/WBC 154
    12. Manny Pacquiao WBO 147
     
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  10. Imperial1

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    :deal
     
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  11. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jones beat Hopkins and Toney, and yes they were prime. Dont give me the whole Hopkins green bs.

    Hoya beat Tito and Mosley.
     
    dangerousity, Apr 25, 2015
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  12. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    :lol:

    How many of those guys were already beaten by the time Floyd got to fight them ?

    It's easy to rack up names once someone else has taken their 0

    Gatti :lol:

    Judah
     
    Imperial1, Apr 25, 2015
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  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Are you serious right now?

    Hatton 40+ fights and OH

    Alvarez 40+ fights and OH

    Corrales 30+ fights and OH

    Genaro was unbeaten at 130. Cotto was unbeaten at 154. Baldomir hadn't lost in like 9 years or something. Guerrero hadn't lost in 8 years.

    EDIT: Kinda didn't realize you were only referencing the guys on that list. But still. I do agree Judah is no HOF'er.
     
    Nonito Smoak, Apr 25, 2015
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  14. willcross

    willcross Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So out of Hopkins entire career, his prime was 93? What do you consider his best win up until that point? If a person said Tony, I wouldn't argue too much.

    If you were a boxer and could have a victory of any version of Bhop on your resume, you'd prefer the 1993 version? You think that would be most impressive? I think most would prefer the 2001 version.

    I was going off official records and Hoya didn't beat Mosley or Tito. Tito isn't even an all time great in his weight class, let alone the sport as a whole. He's a former champion.
     
    willcross, Apr 26, 2015
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  15. Taylor2010

    Taylor2010 Arranging chromosome injections for injured boxers Full Member

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    Does a fighter who wins by stoppage have to also be ahead on points in order to really win?
     
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