Tyson Fury vs. Bryant Jennings

1.) Nobody is arguing Cooper doesn't hit harder than Cunningham. We're just trying to get you to man up to a mistake.

2.) Jennings doesn't hit hard.

3.) Jennings/Fury would be a very close fight IMO.

 

I said Cunningham doesn't HIT HARD AND HE STARTED HIS PRO CAREER AT CRUISERWEIGHT!!!! LOL! Ive said it more then 5 times that Cunningham doesn't hit hard.


When did I say Cunningham isn't a real hw because he fought at cruiserweight without me saying he doesn't hit hard?

 

Cooper is a 'real heavyweight' THAT hits really hard. Cunningham doesn't hit hard AND started as Cruiserweight. By separating their size and punching power you are making a comparison about size AND punching power. How difficult is this to grasp? It may be as simple as you miscommunicated what you were trying to say. Either way, not a big deal. I'm done talking about it I just wish you would be big enough to admit that you made a mistake in suggesting Cooper is a 'real heavyweight' in terms of size compared to Cunningham who's apparently not a 'real heavyweight' because he started at Cruiser.

 

Yeah which means I'm trying to say cooper is a proven real heavyweight while Cunningham isn't plus again ive said Cunningham isn't a real big puncher. <<Am I wrong? Is this Cunningham 6 pro fights at heavyweight? Has he won by a stoppage at heavyweight? Have I say Cunningham doesn't hit hard? atsch Come on man.

 

Haha alright man, it certainly reads to me like you were making a point about size but I'll assume it was all a misunderstanding on my end.

 

You know well he was clowning around, and still was the only one to ever stop Cunningham.

Like we know well of your irrational hate towards the Furys. :hi:

 

uhhh sorry? 185 lbs of FAT is a real heavyweight? Stevenson and Kovalev are superheavyweights then.

 

No, cooper didn't hit hard for ****. His ko percentage is RIDICOLOUS, and he could only stop very small supermiddleweights.
He was a skinny fat beanpole. He looked like he was ill or something.

He wouldn't even be allowed to fight at heavyweight today, since you MUST be at least 200 lbs (and no heavyweight today weights that little, and even cruiserweights comes in the ring at 210+ lbs atsch after the rehydration)

If Cooper was a real heavyweight at 185 lbs, with twiglet chest and no muscles, then Stevenson, Kovalev, Beterbiev, JCC JR, Andre Ward, Marco Huck, and Steve Cunningham are all real heavyweights :deal

Imagine the OUTRAGE if heavyweights of today, like Haye or Wladimir, fought people like Kovalev or Stevenson. THE RAGE!

 

Cooper did have a hell of a left hook. But he wasn't a big guy by any stretch of the imagination and, as you say, he wasn't exactly the picture of fitness.

 

atsch He fought all his pro fights at heavyweight and have won fights by tko or ko at heavyweight. Has Cunningham won fights by a stoppage at hw? If so, how many times? Don't be dumb ok? Cool.

 

Smh this moron lol. Idc if cooper is fat or not he fought at heavyweight and have won fights by tko at heavyweight while Cunningham at heavyweight, has he won fights by tko at heavyweight before? Answer that question. Cunningham a feather fisted fighter knockdown a much larger and bigger 6'8 Fury.

 

Ok I wasn't going to respond to you but if you're going to be so aggressively ignorant I will give you the available fight night weights for every opponent Cooper T/KO'd at "Heavyweight". I can't post links but you can check this all out on the 'boxinghistory' website.

Painter: 186 lbs
Powell: 186 lbs
Keith: 188 lbs
Ball: 207 lbs
Strauch: 181 lbs
Crickmar: 185 lbs
Harman: 204 lbs
Mols: 200 lbs
London: 195 lbs
Orlando Luise: 210 lbs
Richardson (x2): 207 lbs
de Klerk: 191 lbs
Erskine (x2): 190 lbs
Hughes: 196 lbs
Wipperman: 205 lbs
Johnson: 188 lbs
Prescott: 190 lbs
Hilton: 194 lbs
Davis: 201 lbs
Bodell: 206 lbs
Walker: 192 lbs
Tomasoni: 189 lbs
Urtain: 195 lbs

So after seeing this you will hopefully agree that Cooper wasn't even KO'ing guys who were as big as the men Cunningham fought at Cruiser for the most part. A lot of these guys would be cutting down to LH today. He only ever KO'd 8 men who weighed in at 200 or above. So I guess we can call them Cruisers but a lot of them would honestly be small cruisers after rehydration in today's fighting world. So Cooper never T/KO'd a SINGLE man who would be fighting at HW today. On average, Cunningham's 7 HW opponents are 27 lbs bigger than the biggest man Cooper ever KO'd in his career. So it's not particularly surprising that Cunningham isn't scoring KO's at HW when we actually put thing in perspective.

Cooper had 40 wins with 27 by way of for a KO% of 67.5%. Compared to Cunningham who had 24 wins at cruiser with 13 by way of for a KO% of 54%. Now remember that Cooper fought for the vast majority of his career (with the notable exception being the Ali fight) at Commonwealth and European/British Boxing Association level. Fighting at this lower level probably inflated Cooper's KO%. Cunningham, on the other hand, fought at the highest levels of world boxing in the CW division. Please, start being reasonable about this.

I'm not saying Cunningham is some monster puncher or anything. I'm just trying to get you to look at least a centimeter below the surface if you're going to make these "LMAO, don't be dumb? Ok, cool :good" type comments.

 

How did Wladimir have troubles against Jennings? He won nearl every round and was hardly hit by Jennings. Wach achieved more than Jennings, when he hurt Wladimir in round 5.

 

2 refs scored the fight 116-111. That's the best performance anyone scored against Wlad since 2005. I think it's safe to say Wlad had troubles against Jennings.

 

Wlad lost rounds because of a point deduction and because he was desperately looking for a knockout. The German commentator was always questioning when the KO happens, the KO was the only topic this evening.

Troubling is what Maidana did to Floyd in the first fight. This fight yesterday wasn't even close.