Swap Mayweather's and Pacquiao's opponents since 2009:

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Now lets see Floyd do the same thing at LHW, cos thats what Pac is doing. A former flyweight champ beating up Miguel Cotto, equals a WW beating up Kovalev.

 

Both guys were fighting at the same weight in 1994. Floyd matured earlier physically.

 

I think the extra weight has certainly helped his punch resistance, but Khan still is a little shaky at times.

Agreed on his talent level, Khan is an amazing talent. Sometimes, I wish he'd just work on maximizing his talent and not so much on running his mouth.

 

I'd want to pick him against Thurman but I keep having this vision of Khan being up 5-1 on the cards before having his lights switched out and then hearing Jim Watt go, "OH NO, AND IT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER AGAIN FOR AMIR KHAN, HE'S NOT GOING TO SURVIVE THIS. WE'VE SEEN THIS STORY BEFORE, SO MUCH POTENTIAL AND SO MUCH DISAPPOINTMENT FOR AMIR KHAN"

 

A green, drained and overrated Canelo at 152?

 

- First off, I'm just stating the facts. Pac was robbed obviously, which maybe even you acknowledge. But the facts don't change that he was still P4P #3. As you would say "that's just a fact".

- Wait, so now we are changing criteria? Now it's "coming off a win"? If you want it that way: Maidana II coming off a loss

- Let's look at opponents after the fact: Cotto wide loss to Trout. Guerrero dominated by Thurman. Mosley went on to go 1-3-1 after. Ortiz got sparked in his next fight.

- You intentionally leave out the fact that Manny fought Margarito at LMW, who was coming off a win at LMW. But for some reason that doesn't matter? Because LMW is heavier than WW? Margarito was fighting at WW 2 fights before.

- As for the catch weight nonsense. I will NEVER understand why Floyd fans bring it up. Floyd did it to Canelo and Marquez. And to Marquez, he intentionally came in overweight. Why even bring it up? Right, just facts.

Good day and night.

 

He shouldn't have lost his fight with Garcia. Just IMO. Your quote reminds me of that fight. The guy "could" have out-boxed Garcia in my view. But hey, as they say: close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades. Khan got clipped. Shoot, not just clipped... his head almost got taken clean off.

 

60% unranked opponents.

Yes I did not bring up Margarito because it is not a welterweight fight. I was speaking specifically about the welterweight division. But since you brought it up, let's tear that fight to shreds to shall we? It was at 150 pound catchweight against the guy who just beat a journeyman after he was coming off a one-year suspension. Give me a break with that BS.

And if you really want me to tear Pacquiao's resume to shreds, I will. Because to be honest his resume is ****ing garbage after 130 pounds. He has like 3-4 meaningful fights after he left 130.That's just a fact. Pac fans shouldn't even open their mouth about "cherry picking "because if you look at Pacquiao's resume after he left at 130 pounds, you have no reason to criticize Floyd.

Pac has one fight at lightweight one fight at super lightweight and one fight at super welterweight. That's it. And at no point in any of those divisions did hedefend the title. But hey, "Pacquiao takes on all challenges. "Don't make me puke…

 

Floyd has been at WW for a whole decade and his best win at the weight is an old mosley. Where was floyd when it was waxing hot from 2006-2009?

 

Yet you'll give credit to Floyd for beating Mosley after Mosley defeated Margarito. You don't have a high opinion of Margarito so I fail to see why that one win for Shane should count as something special. Aside from his win over Berto, what had Ortiz accomplished at WW? How good did Hatton look in his 1 WW fight before he got in the ring with Floyd. If you want to criticize Pac for fighting at catch weights, what's your opinion of the Alvarez and Marquez fights Floyd had?

 

I didn't out right criticize pac for fighting at a catchweight. You need to learn how to read what people are writing. I just pointed out the fact that it was a catchweight fight at 150 pounds. And I might add it is against the man who hadn't done **** in that division. The entire title that he won from Margarito is a farce.

I'm not elevating the Hatton Fight to unseen Heights like pac fans are doing with Pacquiao's fights. That is the difference. Hatton is a good win, nothing more.

My opinion of the Alvarez fight is the same as it has always been: no catchweight fight should ever be for the title. End of discussion. It is a quality win over a good opponent, but if Floyd wanted the title he should have bought him at the full limit of 154 pounds.

I never thought the Marquez fight was going to be competitive regardless of what weight it was fought at. It was a comeback fight that I really don't rate very highly to be honest.

 

What had Ortiz done at WW. Had he done anything more than Clottey or Margarito had done? How good was Hatton at WW? How had Marquez performed at WW before the Floyd fight? Aside from Margarito, how had Mosley looked before and after the Floyd fight? How good did Cotto look at 154? What has Guerrero done at WW? The Alvarez fight was at a catch weight for whatever reason. See, we can do this all day long. It's funny watching someone criticizing Pac for fighting a top ranked 140lb fighter and handing him his first defeat while acting like Floyd has took on so much tougher challenges.

 

Mayweather's resume is not above criticism. However, it is superior to Pac's resume.

Just be honest for one minute: if Mayweather fought 60% of his opponents at welterweight that were non-ranked, he would be absolutely tarred and feathered publicly. Pac gets a pass because of his popularity. That's just the way it is bro.

Just be honest, if these resumes were completely reversed people would be praising Pac and trashing Mayweather. It would be no different than what you see today.

 

The fact that you can't say what Ortiz, Guerrero, and Mosley had looked like several fights before they were "ranked" before they got in the ring with Floyd speaks volumes. Trying to downplay a win over one of the best 140lb fighters today and say he wasn't ranked at 147 yet somehow think Ortiz's victory over Berto made him a force at WW is quite strange. Again, had Ortiz or Guerrero done anything more at WW than Clottey or Margarito?