Official Prediction Thread: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    This is actually really weird...

    The poll has Floyd up 280-262-9, but vCash betting has it far wider:

    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=535551

    74-57-41

    25% of bettors are comfortable laying some on the draw at mere 18/1 odds (which for a draw is very stingy, most are twenty and up) but only 0.016% have voted on that outcome in the poll.

    Pacquiao has a 33% share of betting, yet is neck and neck with Mayweather in the poll with a 47.5% share. That's despite a handsome 2/1 payout for Pacquiao and just 8/15 on Mayweather...
     
  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't understand American odds either.

    I was just saying 250 votes for Pac, 270 votes for Floyd.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    He's talking about the poll in this very thread, of which he is the OP. :lol:

    Nothing to do with betting.
     
  4. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    There's the possibility that some of the Pac voters in this poll are voting for who they HOPE will win.

    When it comes to betting, they see it a little differently.


    In other words, some dudes might be voting with their hearts and betting with their heads. :yep
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    That's my interpretation as well.
     
  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    I think many people voted for a Floyd win because of the enormously stacked deck against him in this fight. With all the advantages Floyd has got it will be very hard for Manny to get a win :patsch
     
  8. IntentionalButt

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    Yeah but that doesn't explain why voting is super close while betting is more like a landslide. I think cuchulain hit the nail on the head.
     
  9. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If I hadn't lost all of my money on Wlad refusing to knock out jennings inside 10, this is how I would bet:

    Fight ends in majority decision
    Fight ends in split decision
    Draw
    Pacquiao by any decision
    Small bet on Pacquiao by KO

    Rationale:
    Floyd is not the goddamn hulk like JMM. He's not getting a stoppage.

    Manny could get a stoppage, but it's highly unlikely with Floyd's defense/chin/clinching/survival skills/size.

    All parties involved have EVERY incentive to make this fight close/controversial, and both guys fight in a way that lends itself to judging bias. Both guys are often comfortable barely winning rounds. I anticipate a lot of swing rounds on the cards.

    I think the styles have always favored Pacquiao, and I can't ignore Maidana winning 5-7 rounds. I can't stress enough that Maidana struggled with pretty much everyone he ever fought and was dominated by Alexander. Mayweather is clearly in decline, he has a ton of pressure, he's changing things up in camp, and he's accustomed to being the prohibitive favorite/more experienced fighter/clearly superior athlete. And even given all that, he hasn't looked good.

    Manny has also seemed to decline, but I really think it's been a lack of interest. That will not be a problem here. He was lazy with JMM III/Bradley I, but he looked like a different fighter in JMM IV before running into that shot. I think he looked fine in Algieri/Rios/Bradley II.

    So...overtraining/shock at having a real opponent gets to Mayweather, and Pacquiao rises to the occasion having wanted it for 5 years. Manny wins on two cards, Mayweatber the other, and 8 of the rounds are swing rounds on the cards. Both fighters go down once.
     
  10. atigerofold

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    pac wins by ko 5th round.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    The poll has been open for over two months now, pretty much since the announcement. I was sure it would get 1,000 respondents.

    Unless there is a massive flood of latecomers, it won't end up getting even close. Barely past the halfway mark now.
     
  12. Punch O'rello

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    Mmm, I have a feeling one of them will be discalified for biting his opponent's ear.
     
  13. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're right.

    To get a really massive poll response, you need a controversial issue that elicits hot debate regarding a very evenly balanced issue. :lol:


    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=247278&highlight=floored
     
  14. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's because it's a sticky. For some reason I have literally never read any of the stickies until today when I used my phone to log in.

    Stickies are basically "ignore me" signs.
     
  15. Monogamous STD

    Monogamous STD Ya know, Quasimoto predicted all this. Full Member

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    Floyd by knockout and this might be how:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fttZ4guzAaI

    I have said for years it was Mayweather by decision but as the fight gets closer I think he's going to pick Pacquiao apart and not let the judges decide. This is too big to risk a loss for him. Knockout.